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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:24 pm    Post subject: Should the Democrats Disappoint ... Reply with quote

Liberal and mainstream USians are becoming glaringly upset with the Democratic Party USA. The Democrats were given control of both houses of Congress in an unprecedented electoral victory (no sitting Democrats were defeated, while many incumbent Repugnicans were) that was intended as a clear message from the American people: "End the war." Upon receiving this power, the Democrats have miserably failed to end the war. Instead, they have cravenly (or cynically) given bush II everything he needs to keep the war going.

Pro-peace Americans are now asking themselves: "Is it cowardice or something worse that is causing the Democrats to ignore and betray us?"

I have to say, that part of me wants the Democrats to end the war immediately, like the American people want. The Iraqi people want them out, who knows what evil mischief the US, its military, and its uncontrolled mercenaries are up to?

I suppose that I'd be more happy to see the Democrats throw off whatever it is that is preventing them from making the right decision about Iraq, than that they conform to my expectations of who they are and do what I expect them to do, which is to put control of strategic resources such as Iraq's petroleum reserves ahead of international law, human rights, and the blessings of peace, and to attempt to preserve the occupation of Iraq permanently, with delusions about their ability to oppress the Iraqi people more sensibly than the uber-moron bush II and his cabal of extortionists, insider-traders, and closet-cases.

But, alas, I was prepared to eat crow had Canada and the NATO powers done the unexpected and actually rebuilt Afghanistan and made a better country than they had found, and, unfortunately, Canada and the NATO powers stayed true to their imperialist agenda and have simply installed a friendly puppet, and have devoted vastly more resources to crushing resistance than to reconstruction. (As a result, even outside of the Pashtun-Taliban stronghold, happiness with the NATO regime is weakening, while corruption, continued poverty, and NATO violence are increasing resistance in the Taliban's region.)

I believe that the Democrats are, and always have been, and for structural reasons, always will be, a party of liberal-capitalist imperialism. As such, they will seek to maintain and preserve US capital's control over the wealth of the world. They will do this to the best of their abilities given the necessary self-delusion and incoherence such a worldview implies.

And here is where the silver-lining might lie. I believe that the continuation of the degenerate political culture of the US, with their content-free attack ads, their mainstream media's celebration of the biggest, crypto-fascist simpletons, their media-stars' clueless arrogance about the rest of the world (including their fellow USians), and their all-capitalism-all-the-time mindset is a bad thing.

If the Democrats, along with the hapless, ridiculous, frightening, super-corrupt, super-stupid, super-hypocritcal Repugnicans, reveal themselves to be so disconnected from the views of the majority in the US, that majority (with the assistance of the admirable, wonderful, US left and progressive movements) will be forced to admit that this political system doesn't work for them, cannot work for them, is, in fact, opposed to their own best interests, and might rise up and reject that political system.

Ah, but then, who knows?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One hopeful sign for me is the decline of television's immense power. IMO, TV has kept the vast majority of the USian populace docile and ignorant while Barry Goldwater's movement has systematically removed all the concessions that so many USians fought so hard for.

As USians turn away from TV, the likelihood that they will continue to remain docile in the face of the ongoing and quite obvious attack on their way of life diminishes somewhat.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I believe that the Democrats are, and always have been, and for structural reasons, always will be, a party of liberal-capitalist imperialism. As such, they will seek to maintain and preserve US capital's control over the wealth of the world. They will do this to the best of their abilities given the necessary self-delusion and incoherence such a worldview implies.


Yes, just like the Canadian Liberal Party. It's all posturing and will never (in fact CAN'T EVER) amount to otherwise other than a few crumbs.

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One hopeful sign for me is the decline of television's immense power. IMO, TV has kept the vast majority of the USian populace docile and ignorant while Barry Goldwater's movement has systematically removed all the concessions that so many USians fought so hard for.

As USians turn away from TV, the likelihood that they will continue to remain docile in the face of the ongoing and quite obvious attack on their way of life diminishes somewhat.


I had high hopes in the 90s when the power of the old TV networks started to decline, but today I'm not so sure. While many have turned to leftist blogs and newsgroups like this one.....an equal amount on the other side have turned to rightwing blogs, "talk radio" and online hatesites like Freak Republic (often more hate filled than anything on old network TV). As for a good chunk of the apolitical types, they remain fixated on the latest exploits of Britney and Brangelina - only instead of getting their fill on "Entertainment Tonight" on TV, they go on chat lines where they have in depth discussions of whether Lindsay Lohan is a bigger idiot than Paris or vice versa. Rolling Eyes

So while the decline of the old MSM (TV and newspapers) is a good thing, I don't know if people necessarily making best use of the new opportunities in the new media. Sad
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems to me that progressives in the US have long been holding their noses and voting Democrat and crossing their fingers that good things will happen. Problem is, the Democrats are in a position to stop Bush, and on many issues they have failed. I think many Democratic voters now feel betrayed to the point that they will never vote Democrat again no matter what, and that's going to come back to hurt the party. Part of me thinks that the best thing that could happen to the American left would be for the Democrats to be wiped out, shattering any illusions they have about having friends in the major political parties, and forcing them to build a genuine left-wing alternative from the ground up.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is Spineocrat right for you?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ Awesome.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's not forget Mother Nature's Heart's & Brains* for Republicans.



* Now with a fortified conscience stimulator.


(I said stimulator, not simulator.)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wee Mousie wrote:
(I said stimulator, not simulator.)


i was just noticing that Yahoo Mail has trouble differentiating between co-simulation and co-stimulation. it's mixing my engineering emails with my Viagra spam.

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Should the Democrats Disappoint ...


unfortunately, it's not a future tense thing.

it's a past, present, &, most probably, future tense thing.

i heard Cynthia McKinney, whom i greatly admire, is running on the Green Party platform.

let me check ...

FWIW, not complementary of Cynthia
http://atlanta.about.com/library/weekly/aa092902a.htm

another Cynthia admirer
http://wisconsingreen.blogspot.com/2007/03/cynthia-mckinney-for-pre...

running as Nader's VP ?

what i like about Cynthia is, she tells the truth, and is willing to address difficult subjects.

Nader had the ability to be realistic, to recognize the closeness of the race, the machinations of the Republicans to steal Florida. he enabled Bush, as did Gore.

oh well. back to registering Democrat and voting for Kucinich in the primary.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abdul_Maria wrote:
...Yahoo Mail . . . it's mixing my engineering emails with my Viagra spam.

That's why I go with Google. It filters all my breast and penis enlargement spam, quick-breaking stock tips, and entreaties to meet sexy others* using cyber dating services, into a special, convenient, easy-to-access folder..


* For their own convenience, spam solicitors have developed a third major sex. Now there are males, females, and others.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah spam... how about this subject line?

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"But now I can penetrate hardly and give the pleasure to every woman!"


I found that a few months ago on one of my email providers and it screamed out to be saved and shared.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abdul_Maria wrote:

i heard Cynthia McKinney, whom i greatly admire, is running on the Green Party platform.

This is the first I've heard of her. She sounds good, from the little that I've read.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RootsAction launched as a progressive lobby group independent of the Democratic Party.
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