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Raos
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| Thankfully I can't say that I have, but I don't watch a whole lot of TV and what I do watch is usually recorded and I fast-forward through the commercials, so they might be running them and I'm just not seeing them. |
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Haven't seen any of those yet. No doubt the WRA is frothing at the mouth with the release of this budget and are trying to appeal to peoples' ritieous indignance.
Watch, the WRA will pick up enough support that they will fracture the opposition even further, guaranteeing the PC's another four years. |
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Cartman
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| I wouldn't be surprised if, in time, the PC vote drops significantly and a lot of them jump ship and run for the WRA. They will run under the same BS Ronald Reagan platform of starving the government by reducing taxes and increasing personal choice with the reality being the exact opposite. IOW, same shit, different pile. |
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Hephaestion
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| Hephaestion wrote: | The World's Youngest Transsexual
| Quote: | German pop star Kim Petras has revealed that she underwent gender reassignment surgery late last year at the age of 16, becoming what some are calling the world's youngest transsexual.
| Quote: | In Germany, such operations are not usually allowed until the patient is 18. However Kim managed to convince doctors when she was just 12 that she should have the surgery. By 14 she was officially registered as a girl - and was already famous for her choice. The costs of her procedure were covered by health insurance as her condition was officially diagnosed as an illness.
Last year Kim was signed to Joyce Records and released online her first single 'Last Forever'. It became a YouTube and MySpace hit. In September - just weeks before the cosmetic surgery finalising her transition from a male to a female -she released her first commercially available single 'Fade Away' into the German market. |
Below left is an audio clip of Fade Away, which sounds like every other bit of overly vocodered/Britney stuff out there. Below right is Kim's video blog in which she answers viewers' questions. Kim sounds like she's from the valley. The Frankfurt valley maybe, but yeah, totally, fer shure, she's a val. |
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Australian teen not far behind German in record books
| Quote: | Court okays breast removal for transsexual teen: report
An Australian court has allowed a 17-year-old girl who believes she is a boy to have her breasts surgically removed, it was reported.
The teenager had been on hormone treatment since age 13 to block puberty and applied to the Family Court for permission to undergo a double mastectomy to make it easier for her to pass as a boy, Fairfax newspapers reported.
The paper reported the youth, referred to as Alex, suffered from "gender identity dysphoria," a psychological condition where a person has the normal physical characteristics of one sex but believes they are the opposite gender.
Family Court chief justice Diana Bryant said the court decided to allow the breast removal because evidence from medical experts, Alex's counsellor and an independent children's lawyer "overwhelmingly" backed the move.
Bryant said Alex could have had the operation without court approval at age 18, although that would have meant the teenager missed out on social support services available to a minor. |
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Hephaestion
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Manitoba rejects funding for trans surgeries; NDP government makes decision behind closed doors and won't say why the plan was axed
| Quote: | Manitoba's NDP government refused a proposal to fully fund sex reassignment surgeries for trans people, Xtra.ca has learned. The policy would have brought the province in line with British Columbia, Ontario and Quebec by covering the costs of hormone therapy as well as procedures like chest reconstruction and clitoral release.
The proposal, brought forward by the province's Ministry of Healthy Living, was created after consultation with queer community members. It was approved by top bureaucrats but rejected by NDP cabinet ministers at a Treasury Board meeting earlier this year.
Kerri Irvin-Ross, Manitoba's Minister of Healthy Living, refused to tell Xtra.ca why her department's plan isn't going ahead. "What happens in Treasury Board is confidential," she said. But she added, "There's an economic downturn happening and that's slowing things down."
Manitoba posted one of the only balanced budgets in Canada this year, increasing core spending by 4.4 percent. The government predicts a $48 million surplus this time next year.
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Last fall, an internal government document warned Irvin-Ross about the inadequacies of Manitoba's current position regarding sex reassignment surgeries. Marked 'Confidential,' it said:
* Manitoba has no standards of care for gender identity disorder in spite of the fact that internationally accepted standards exist;
* Treatment is largely the financial responsibility of the individual and any provided services are coincidental and generally do not result in the desired outcomes associated with gender reassignment;
* Coverage is denied on the basis that treatments are cosmetic, experimental, or not medically necessary, contrary to all available evidence; and,
* The long-term social and economic costs of not treating gender identity disorder exceed the short-term costs of providing comprehensive treatment.
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Last fall's confidential document also contained this warning for Irvin-Ross:
"Reforms in other provinces are well known within the local transgender community; Manitoba is quickly becoming one of the least responsive jurisdictions in terms of meeting the needs of the transgender community."
When asked if she agreed with that statement, Irvin-Ross said no. "We've made progress and we have more to do," she said.
An hour after Irvin-Ross was interviewed by Xtra.ca, she presided over a press conference at the Manitoba Legislature to unveil a new booklet aimed at eliminating homophobia, biphobia, transphobia and heterosexism in Manitoba.
In the audience were trans high school students Sebashtien Reece and Mark Harwood-Jones. When told of the Manitoba government's decision to reject funding for sex reassignment surgery, they expressed anger.
"It's a stupid move," said Reece. "It shouldn't have happened. To reject it is to say we don't accept you." |
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TS.
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God damn it. What the hell is wrong with the Manitoba NDP? Fully funding would cost what? There's no way it would even come close to eating up that $48 million surplus.
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Cartman
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| TS. wrote: | | God damn it. What the hell is wrong with the Manitoba NDP? Fully funding would cost what? There's no way it would even come close to eating up that $48 million surplus. |
That is very disappointing. Why is the NDP ALWAYS on the wrong side of the political spectrum? |
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Tehanu
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| Quote: | | But she added, "There's an economic downturn happening and that's slowing things down." |
Whatever. How many people are we talking about a year in Manitoba? 10? 20? Even the wildest estimates it wouldn't cost more than a few hundred thousand dollars.
Such a small amount of money that would make such a huge difference for some individuals who probably very much need it. And to demonstrate that you're not bigoted shits who believe that GRS is "cosmetic."
I notice the article was talking about Ontario covering costs. Has anyone heard if this is the case yet? Because last I checked they hadn't started yet ... |
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Cartman
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| Quote: | Whatever. How many people are we talking about a year in Manitoba? 10? 20? Even the wildest estimates it wouldn't cost more than a few hundred thousand dollars.
Such a small amount of money that would make such a huge difference for some individuals who probably very much need it. |
I was thinking the same thing. I suspect that we are talking about 10 people per year.
The real kick in the head though, is that Ralph Klein never eliminated this service during his difficult reign of cutbacks when the economy was slow, but Doer has done so during better times. |
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Tehanu
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I went ahead and checked to see if GRS had officially been relisted in Ontario, beyond Smitherman's announcement last year. It has, as of June 2008. Not really clear, though, if hormone treatment is included.
| Quote: | Subject: Relisting of Sex Reassignment Surgery under OHIP
Effective June 3, 2008, Regulation 552 of the Health Insurance Act (HIA) has been amended to add sex reassignment surgery (SRS) as an insured service under the Ontario Health Insurance Plan (OHIP).
Sex-reassignment surgical procedures, including reconstruction of genitalia and mastectomy, are an insured benefit effective June 3, 2008 only if they are performed on patients who have completed the Gender Identity Clinic program operated by the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health and for whom the Clinic has recommended that surgery take place.
Within the foregoing guidelines, reconstruction of genitalia and mastectomy are insured benefits. However, since the hormonal treatments associated with sex-reassignment themselves give rise to breast enlargement, augmentation mammoplasty or breast reconstruction in a male to female conversion is not an insured benefit.
Prior approval from the MOHLTC is required.
As the Province moves forward in the delivery of SRS services, we want to ensure that we are adopting the most up to date and efficacious techniques to serve the transgender community. To that end, we have sought the advice of the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health as well as the Sherbourne Health Centre about using the World Professional Association for Transgendered Health (WPATH) standards of care to inform our implementation strategy.
For services proposed to be received at a hospital or health facility outside Canada, prior approval of the General Manager of OHIP is required. See http://www.health.gov.on.ca/english/public/program/ohip/outcountry_... for the application process and requirements. |
Yes, people still need to go through the rather notorious Centre for Addition and Mental Health Gender Identity Clinic program. One hopes that they're getting a little less hidebound in their conception of what a transsexual should be like. They're still requiring a 2-year real-life test, though, and the first year without hormones (and how someone's supposed to transition successfully without hormones I'm not quite sure), so I'm not sanguine.
| Quote: | The Gender Identity Clinic subscribes to the criteria for Sex Reassignment Surgery outlined in the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH), Standards of Care, 2001. The International Standards of Care specify that these represent minimum standards. The Gender Identity Clinic at the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health uses these standards as guidelines, however, in terms of the ‘real-life experience’; our clinic policy is that a two year period of successful cross-living in the felt-gender role is required before a recommendation for sex reassignment surgery can be made.
During the real-life experience, individuals seeking such surgery are expected to fulfill various criteria as outlined below and in the WPATH Standards of Care. These criteria include being able to demonstrate successful adaptation in the felt-gender role by sustaining either full-time employment, full-time student status or the equivalent of full-time voluntarism, or any combination of these three criteria. Clients become eligible for hormone therapy after one-year of completion of living full-time in the felt-gender role. |
CAMH. |
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Hephaestion
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| Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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An excellent column. Trust me... just read it.
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Activists speak out against Manitoba's SRS decision; outrage over NDP's decision to reject funding
| Quote: | All across Canada, queer activists who fight for trans rights are venting their frustration about the Manitoba NDP government's decision to reject funding for sex reassignment surgeries.
"I'm terribly disappointed," says Catherine Taylor, who authored a 2006 report on trans issues in Manitoba called Nowhere Near Enough. "I would hope for more from the NDP."
"Politicians, more frequently than not, don't understand trans health and the importance of medical intervention in our lives," adds Susan Gapka, chair of the Rainbow Health Network's trans health lobby group.
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Manitoba's Minister of Healthy Living, Kerri Irvin-Ross, suggests tough times are to blame. But with the province's economy chugging along better than most others in the country, many people aren't buying it.
"That argument doesn't wash," says Mickey Wilson, chair of Egale Canada's trans committee. "Manitoba has one of the few economies that's not expected to have a downturn."
Besides, he adds, "it's not a lot of money" to fund trans surgeries. In Wilson's home province of Alberta, activists calculated the cost at 19 cents per taxpayer. "We're talking pennies in the larger scheme of things." |
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Siksay tables trans bill for a third time; NDP MP's bill would add gender identity and expression to Human Rights Act and Criminal Code
| Quote: | NDP MP Bill Siksay hopes that third time's the charm.
On May 15, Siksay tabled his private members' bill titled An Act to Amend the Human Rights Act and the Criminal Code (Gender Identity and Gender Expression) in the House of Commons.
Siksay says the bill will "add protection for members of the transsexual and transgendered communities to the Canadian Human Rights Act, by adding gender identity and gender expression as prohibited grounds for discrimination in the Act. The bill also adds gender identity and gender expression into the Criminal Code so that it can be taken into consideration at the time of sentencing for hate crimes."
This is the third time he's tabled this bill, which previously died on the order paper when Parliament was prorogued or dissolved for an election. But in this Parliament, he's 65th in line for private members' business, which means that if Parliament survives until autumn, the bill should come up for debate in the House.
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There is already some high-profile support in the Liberal party, courtesy of Toronto Centre MP Bob Rae.
"I'm strongly supportive of it," says Rae. "I've spoken to Bill about it, and I'm very hopeful we'll be able to get it to come to a vote in the House. I think it's very important — it's the next thing that has to be done from a legal standpoint within Canada to ensure that the transgendered people's rights are protected, and I very much hope that it passes."
Rae also feels that there is support for it among the Liberals.
"It's a private members' bill, which means that people will reflect on it," adds Rae. "But there'll certainly be a number of people who will be speaking very strongly in favour of it including me, and I'm optimistic that it will get very substantial support in the Liberal caucus."
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Siksay hopes that similar legislation being discussed in the United States may also spur action in Canada.
"What's important is when you talk to members of the trans community, it's not long in the conversation that you hear about overt acts of discrimination and prejudice that they suffer," says Siksay. "Members of the trans community will tell you that they feel like it's acceptable for people to spit on them on the street, and that's a kind of overt hostility, overt discrimination, overt oppression that we don't tolerate in Canadian society."
He also hopes that the changes under this bill will ensure that the Canadian Human Rights Commission has an explicit mandate to do education work around discrimination against trans people, and to raise awareness in Canadian society. |
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Hephaestion
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Radio Show Loses Sponsors After Hosts Suggest Beating Transgender Kids
| Quote: | | Several major advertisers have pulled their support from Sacramento radio station KRXQ after its hosts suggested beating transgender behavior out of children. Via GLAAD, below is a partial transcript of the show. |
more @ link...
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Raos
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That's revolting, but good for the sponsors who pulled their advertising over it. Although the statement from one that the article provided left a little to be desired.
| Quote: | | Sonic wants to assure you that the views of this station are in no way related to the views of Sonic. Sonic was alerted to the May 28th segment only yesterday and immediately began researching the segment, show and Sonic’s planned advertising on the station. SONIC in no way condones violence toward children and does not wish to be associated with media content that condones or promotes such activity in any way. We have decided to immediately withdraw advertising from this station and have notified the station of our decision. |
Not even a word about the transgender aspect of the controversy. |
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| I wonder how pervasive these thoughts are though. |
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Tehanu
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Hephaestion
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Siksay on SRS
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that is just disgusting...and completely waste of time. so what, they need to have a discussion on whether if we should beat up transgender kids?
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Perhaps someone should contact the 'hosts' and reason with them. To tell them that beating a transgender child would be about as effect as beating the stupid out of them....[regardless of the joy most of us would enjoying doing so ...for "their on own good" , of course.  ]
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anne cameron
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Nah, I'm all fer this. Whup'em and Whup'em good! Put the fear'a Gawd inta the little pervs. "Train up a child in the way in which he is to go and when he is old he shall not depart from it". See, Gawd said so! "Fathers, discipline now your sons and let not your heart be qualed by his weeping". Lay it on! Gawd said so! An ungrateful child is worse than a serpents tooth, dontcha know? Should have a whipping post in every neighbourhood. Maybe some stocks in the parking lot at the mall. Ya could make munny doin' it, give everybody a chance to lay on a whack, dollar a go, reduce the municipal deficit. Listen, there's places on earth where they know how to handle this kind'a dumb shit, eh. Choppin' off the hands'a theives and stringin up the poofs and gearboxes. Get'em when they're young. If whippin'em doesn't work, move on to greater things There's always some batshits gonna jump on the bandwagon. If we allow adult weirds like this to set a bad example ya can't expect a dumb kid to invent a difference. Start with the adult ones. String'em up. See how many others jump out of the Romper Room Playhouse and start talkin' about weird shit!
I'm tellin' ya, if ya don't yer gonna be sorry. Would you want YOUR kid to grow up twisted? And ya wouldn't want your kid to marry one, neither! |
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Indeed, let's get all biblical. And why restrict it to transgender kids? Spare the rod and spoil the child.  |
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| Tehanu wrote: | | And why restrict it to transgender kids? Spare the rod and spoil the child. |
Were you spanked as a kid Tehanu? |
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| Quote: | | Quote: | | And why restrict it to transgender kids? Spare the rod and spoil the child. |
Were you spanked as a kid Tehanu? |
Nope. I'm against hitting kids for any reason.
Adults, on the other hand ...  |
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anne cameron
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One of the sadder aspects of this is there are people out there who actually do behave that way. It's what, two years since some nice "sister" was found guilty of child abuse in court after she beat kids in a private "christian" school... and the parents testified on her behalf...
I've been known to give my grandgrrrrrls three slaps on "the seat of learning". Bare hand, bare bum, one-two-three now go to your room and THINK about what you did and what you just got for doing it...I've also been known to scoop up an enraged and fierce child and just cuddle it until the fury passes and the tears start... you can't expect a two and a half year old to understand frustration or know how to deal with it properly, they strike out. Three year olds can be tiny ninja's when you've got something they want! To me that does not mean you have to be a bloody Ninja yourself and batter them.
We've never had a transgender person in the family. One of our extended family members has a child whose gender is in doubt so we've all talked about it over tea and most of us feel there's no rush for surgery, wait until the kid hits puberty, I'm sure we'll all be able to figure it out then.
I am never surprised when the arsewipes start quoting the Old Testament. Most of them mis-quote it. Few have read it. Fewer still have any real understanding of it nor do they seem to "get it" that the New Testament basically replaces all that Old Testament stuff. "I come not to deny, but to fulfill."... how many angels can dance on the head of a pin kind of stuff..
But we know about me. I'm the one sees this kind of schlock radio as hate mongering. |
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I wasn't the best mom in the world, far from it. As I get older I learn more and more, most of it from little kids. Courage, damn, they can make tears spurt from my eyes, there they are, they are surrounded by giants, all they hear are loud voices, and yet the raw guts when the kid dares to say "no"... small wonder they love the story of Jack the Giant Killer...
anyway (there is a point to this, I think), a couple of years ago I had my grrrrrrrrrls for the day and they had one of their friends over, this was like a madhouse,kids in , kids out, kids needing nose wipes and freezies and...and the little friend came just a'racin' for the house, already crying. They'd been at the playground and she was having so much fun she didn't register the first signs so as she ran she was pee'ing. She was almost in hysterics when she got here. I scooped her up under the arms, kept the increasingly sodden area away from me and raced to the bathroom.
All I said to her was "oh, you poor little darlin', and now you're soaking wet."...stripped her down, started the tub, popped her in and went and got some of the grandgrrrrrrrls clothes for her. Not a sound from this sweetheart, she was just watching everything. Tossed her wet stuff into the washer and then I promised her it would be clean and dry before it was time for her to go home.
Others arrived, worried about her. Everyone got freezies. Everyone got pats on the bum and reassurances. And then this kid gave me a peek into what her life was usually like. She said "you are so nice to me. You never hit me nor nothin. Really nice.".
I could have collapsed onto a chair and bawled like a weanling calf. No wonder the little thing was near hysterics! She was running toward what she expected would be a spanking.
I learned a lot from her. Last week our youngest, Ellie-belle (her real name is Ellen) came home doing that funny cross-legged vain attempt to hold it all in and I met her in the driveway, told her "squeeze tight, bahboo" and carried her to the bathroom. Well, it was too late, she was drenched. Bathtub in order. Tossed her stuff in the washer and then I winked at her and said it was a good job she was wearing sandals, it meant we didn't have to wash socks. She, busy applying foam soap so she had a moustache and beard answered by saying no socks but now the shoes are pee shoes. So they went in the tub, too.
They give me THEIR version of the three little pigs (it's different!), and yesterday afternoon I was busy with LilliBilly, we had felt markers and a colouring book and were doing a picture she had chosen. And she was colouring the shoe on the elf and suddenly asked "what do your feet look like?". I said they looked like hers, only bigger. And whiter. Oh, she said. I wondered because I never seen your feet. So grandma said You're supposed to say I have never seen , not I seen or I never seen".
She gave me the look. "Did you hear me what I said? I didn't ever see your feet. You always wear shoes and socks."
So off came shoes and socks and we compared feet and she agreed yes, much bigger and MUCH whiter. "You sure are white.", she said. "I never knew how white until I seen your feet.".
I'm not going to win the "I seen" struggle. The entire extended family says I seen. Only my daughter and I stick to the "have seen" rule. But that's okay. There are worse mistakes to be made than that. Like thinking you can bash, batter, slam and whip a child into a gender identity YOU have made on the kids behalf.
I wonder IF... if we had a more enlightened view of such things would it be necessary for some to go for surgical alteration or would the choice itself be sufficient. I'm not even sure how to word that puzzle.
I just wish we'd stop being mean to each other. |
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| Anne, I always feel privileged when you share your stories, because you write so very evocatively! Your kids & grandkids are clearly lucky to have you in their lives. |
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Radio Hosts Who Made Anti-Trans Remarks Apologize, Invite Trans Advocates On Air
| Quote: | | Pam's House Blend contributor Autumn Sandeen and fellow trans-advocate Kim Pearson will appear on Sacramento's KRXQ radio station this Thursday after the station's hosts apologized for saying last week that they would beat transgender behavior out of their kids. The station suffered a massive pull-back in advertiser support after trans and gay bloggers took their outrage to the media. The offending show has been temporarily pulled off the air. |
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Feds Working On Trans Protection
| Quote: | The New York Times reports that lawyers for the Obama administration are "quietly" working on workplace guidelines banning discrimination against transgender federal employees.
| Quote: | | The guidelines will be in an updated federal handbook for managers and supervisors to be distributed and posted online in the next couple of months, and they could also be included in other materials for managers. They will list transgender people — those who identify their gender differently from the information on their birth certificates — as among several groups protected by antidiscrimination laws. Though transgender men and women are not believed to make up more than a fraction of a percent of the federal work force, their inclusion in the discrimination guidelines is seen as a breakthrough by transgender and gay rights advocates. “The president is making a very clear statement that transgender people won’t be discriminated against,” said Mara Keisling, the executive director of the National Center for Transgender Equality, a group that has been talking with the White House about the new provisions. |
Of course, we wouldn't need workplace "guidelines" if we had a little thing called ENDA. |
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The Maine Human Rights Commission has ruled that a transgender girl has the right to use the girls' bathroom in her school. After she was harassed by a boy (who was removed from her class and suspended) then told that she had to use the faculty bathroom.
| Quote: | Last week the Maine Human Rights Commission ruled in favor of a transgender girl’s right to use the girls bathroom at school. Asa Adams School allowed the girl to use the restroom that matched her gender identity until a boy, who it seems was encouraged by his grandfather, harassed her and followed her into the bathroom. School officials then told the girl she had to use the single-stall faculty bathroom.
The state’s ruling corrects a decision that smacks of victim blaming - the girl was forced to use a separate bathroom on the other side of the school because she was the target of harassment. But this story also speaks to the larger problem of the prevalence of gender segregated restrooms. If students at the school (and their guardians) were not trained from a young age that people fit into one of two gender boxes, clearly represented by the places we pee, the girl’s bathroom use would not have been an issue, and her transgender identity would not be a reason to segregate her away from her fellow students. |
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Article from the Bangor Daily News:
| Quote: | ... While the school department’s lawyer warned that schools around the state may not be ready to manage the practical fallout from the decision, civil liberties advocates hailed the ruling as an advancement of human rights.
... The discrimination in question first occurred in October 2007 when the child was in the fifth grade at Asa Adams School. Until then, she was allowed to use the girls’ bathroom, although she was biologically male. But that fall, the transgender child was followed into the girls room by a male student who had “previously started to harass her by stalking her and calling her ‘faggot,’” according to the Maine Human Rights Commission investigator’s report.
After the second such episode, the boy was suspended and removed from the transgender child’s class. At that point, school officials told the transgender child that she had to use a single-stall faculty bathroom at the other end of the school, and that was when her parents decided to take the matter to the Maine Human Rights Commission.
Paul Melanson, grandfather of the boy accused of harassing the transgender student, also filed a complaint with the Maine Human Rights Commission, saying that not allowing his grandson to use the girls bathroom or the faculty bathroom as the other child did was a violation of his grandson’s right to public accommodation under the Maine Human Rights Act. Melanson had given his grandson permission to use the girls bathroom as long as the transgender student was doing so, according to the report.
... Melanson is now trying to inspire Maine moms to protest the decision, which he thinks is wrong — and unfair to both boys and girls. |
So let me get this right ... a grandfather basically encourages his grandson to bully and harass a transgender kid, then has the nerve to file a complaint that his grandson can't use the girls' washroom? What an asshole. |
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Am I just getting old?? Transgendered ten year olds?
I mean, I agree with you regarding the asshat grandpa and such, but... ten years old?
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| Senor Magoo wrote: | | Am I just getting old?? |
Yes. We all are. Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of our lives ...
Dunno, Magoo, how old were you when you figured out you were a boy?
Anyway, there's increasing awareness that gender identity manifests itself very early in many cases, and also increasingly, supportive parents (and therapists) are not trying to force kids into the wrong sex roles. See upthread here and here for some interesting discussion on how different people react. |
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| Quote: | Senor Magoo wrote:
Am I just getting old??
Yes. We all are. Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of our lives ...
Dunno, Magoo, how old were you when you figured out you were a boy?
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I knew at ten, my mum and sis noticed when I was six and my bothers and father always treated me as other.
One of the worst things that can happen to a trans kids is the wrong puberty it truly messes up the body and that damages the mind.
The other worst thing is for a reparative therapist like zucker at CAMH to try to change a trans kid into a cis kid or a gay kid because he believes that is a better result.
IMO it's good that in the half century since my time, some progressive thought is being given to a transpositive approach for children. |
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Help me out, here. I keep running across this abbreviation, but I'm not sure what it refers to...
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| I use cis to mean not trans. A cissexual would have a body in alignment with their gender identity where a transsexual has a body not in alignment with their gender identity. In the context of the pharmacy story it could be used to give a more accurate name to the business it should be "Lu's A Pharmacy for Cis Women" as it excludes trans women. It can be used to describe cis privilege in terms of the oppression of trans people. |
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Thanks for that, What is the origin of the term "cis", please?
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Latin term - "Cis-" as a prefix, meaning "on the same side [as]" or "on this side [of]"
I started to use it after reading Julia Serano's book Whipping Girl, there is some background/origin info on wikipedia and of my favorite trans feminist Emi Koyami has this to say
| Quote: | | I learned the words "cissexual," "cissexist," and "cisgender," from trans activists who wanted to turn the table and define the words that describe non-transsexuals and non-transgenders rather than always being defined and described by them. By using the term "cissexual" and "cisgender," they de-centralize the dominant group, exposing it as merely one possible alternative rather than the "norm" against which trans people are defined. I don't expect the word to come into common usage anytime soon, but I felt it was an interesting concept - a feminist one, in fact - which is why I am using it. |
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Cool beans. Thanks.
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| Quote: | Dunno, Magoo, how old were you when you figured out you were a boy?
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Probably four. Around the same time I knew I was destined to grow up to be a Crime-Fighting Astronaut.
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| Quote: | | Am I just getting old?? Transgendered ten year olds? |
It's an indication that we're getting better - or at least more attentive - at diagnosis. Nothing's changed in the kids. |
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Pakistan Grants Transgender Rights
| Quote: | The Supreme Court of Pakistan has ruled that transgender people are "full and equal citizens" and should be accorded all the rights and benefits of federal and provincial governments. The following story is from DAWN, Pakistan's leading English language newspaper, which while sympathetic, refers to trans folks as "transvestites," "hermaphrodites", and "gender-confused."
| Quote: | "They are citizens of Pakistan and enjoy the same protection guaranteed under Article four (rights of individuals to be dealt with in accordance of law) and Article nine (security of person) of the Constitution," ruled a three-member bench comprising Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, Justice Muhammad Sair Ali and Justice Jawwad S Khawaja on Tuesday. The bench had taken up the petition seeking establishment of a commission to emancipate effeminate men ostracised by the society for no fault of theirs.
Islamic jurist Dr Mohammad Aslam Khaki, who researched on the conditions of the ignominious merrymakers and discovered them to be the most oppressed and deprived segment of the society and subjected to humiliation and molestation, had filed the petition for the welfare of the transvestites left by the society to live by begging, dancing and prostitution. Parents give their hermaphrodite children into the care of gurus (leaders of transvestites) at a very tender age who abuse them instead of providing them the opportunity to get education. |
One transwoman stated that by appearing before the Court to plead her case, she had probably put her life at risk. |
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Trans Woman Asked For Photos Of Her Genitals As Requirement For Work
| Quote: | Pennsylvania transwoman Kate Lynn Blatt says her employer demanded a letter from a surgeon and a photograph of her genitals as a requirement of returning to work after she used the women's locker room. Philadelphia Gay News:
| Quote: | | At the time of the October 2007 incident, Blatt was employed by Manpower Inc., a global staffing-services agency with a branch office in Pottsville. Manpower placed Blatt at Sapa Industrial Extrusions, a manufacturer of aluminum products in Cressona, where she earned about $10 an hour as a temporary factory worker. Blatt worked at Sapa for about a month, before allegedly being told by a supervisor that she wasn’t physically well enough to work at the job and was no longer needed at Sapa, she said. After being discharged from Sapa, Blatt said she personally visited Manpower’s branch office in Pottsville, in an attempt to return to work. Irene Kudziela, branch manager of Manpower’s Pottsville office, allegedly told Blatt that a letter from her surgeon documenting her gender-reassignment surgery — along with a photograph of her genital area — would be necessary before she could return to Sapa. Blatt, 28, said she found the request “repugnant” and “disgusting,” and declined to comply. She viewed the request as a form of sexual harassment, she added. |
Blatt says she's like to return to work at Sapa as a diversity trainer. |
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| That horrendous. I've added it as the new low I've heard of in terms of workplace discrimination and harrassment of transgendered people. I wonder if pregnant women have to give birth in the conference room to prove they qualify for parental leave at that company. |
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UK: trans woman performed own surgery after transition delays
| Quote: | A trans woman has performed her own gender reassignment surgery after being told she would have to wait two years for professional help.
Roland Mery, 61, who is considering changing her name to Rolande, removed her male genitals with a home surgery kit in the bathroom of her Newport home after telling her wife she had a headache.
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As Mery was being taken to hospital, Julie was suspected by police of attacking her until it became clear the DIY operation had been planned by Mery.
Mery said she knew from the age of four she was different but did not know what to do until she visited a Manchester clinic in 2005, where she was given hormone treatment.
She cannot afford a full gender reassignment and is opting to wear androgynous clothes while living as a woman. |
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The American Transportation Security Administration has issued new rules which include that passengers need to provide name, birth date and gender when they're booking their tickets. Which, as Feministing points out, could present quite the challenge for trans people whose ID doesn't match their presentation.
Given that many jurisdictions won't issue new ID unless a trans person has undergone surgery, that's pretty damn problematic, especially given that travel is already a hassle around ID and presentation.
Want to bet Canada follows suit PDQ?
| Quote: | ... Many trans individuals do not have identification that matches their presentation or the name they regularly use. Others have IDs with conflicting information. The Advocate asked the TSA how trans folks should handle these situations and got some very un-helpful advice:
| Quote: | | TSA spokesman Dwayne Baird told Advocate.com on Thursday that transgender travelers who are purchasing tickets should declare "the gender that they were at the time that they booked their flight." |
... Kristina Wertz of the Transgender Law Center offered a much more realistic view of what trans folks will have to deal with:
| Quote: | | "A lot of transgender people don't have documents" that match up with how they currently identify, she said. "There are always troubles that arise when dealing with documents. People are sometimes forced to disclose their transgender status in a situation where they may not want to." |
The National Center for Transgender Equality has released a FAQ about the impact of the Secure Flight program on trans folk. It contains some disturbing information about how the new rules will be implemented and the potential for outing trans folk or creating barriers to flying:
... The TSA's stated reason for requiring this information is to decrease the number of false positives for passengers with names similar to those on the No-Fly list. The ACLU has argued that the No-Fly list is unconstitutional in the first place. Individuals with common Muslim names have been detained, as in the recent case of Shah Rukh Khan. Now this attempt to fix a system that is fatally flawed will increase the targeting of another group of people who too often experience unjustified policing. |
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Trans mechanic loses another job to transphobia
| Quote: | Jamy Spradlin has lost her job for the second time in two years. And once again, Spradlin’s gender identity may have played a role in her being fired.
Spradlin was one of two transgender employees at an aircraft maintenance company based in Burleson. But when she arrived at work on Aug. 3, she was told that she was going to be laid off because of the economic slowdown.
That excuse seemed a little suspicious because she said she was in the middle of inspecting one airplane and had three others lined up in the hangar waiting their turn for inspection.
And, coincidentally, the layoff only involved the company’s two transgender employees. |
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Manitoba Pulls An Alberta, Denies Transgender Surgery
| Quote: | Not long after Alberta’s decision to eliminate all forms of gender reassignment surgery from its public health care, Manitoba has followed suit, calling it an “unnecessary treatment” and citing savings for the economy. The surgery would affect only an estimated 20 Manitobans per year.
The Manitoba Health Department had previously suggested to the government that the province completely fund all forms of gender reassignment surgeries on the grounds that it dramatically improves the lives of people who suffer from a recognized disorder. A document prepared by the Health Department described the necessity clearly, but was dismissed by Gary Doer’s NDP government:
| Quote: | | Manitoba has no standards of care for Gender Identify Disorder in spite of the fact that internationally accepted standards exist. Coverage is denied on the basis that treatments are cosmetic, experimental or not medically necessary, contrary to all available evidence. |
Ontario had previously tried to delist gender reassignment surgery from its public health care, but was forced to re-introduce it by the Human Rights Commission ten years ago. |
Once again, I am *disgusted* by the Doer government.
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