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'Why, Lord, did you remain silent?' Pope asks at Auschwitz

Hephaestion · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 2:40 pm Post subject:

... or maybe Gawd was too busy cutting deals with Il Duce to give the Vatican its own chunk of territory?
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pogo · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 2:41 pm Post subject:

I found this so odd that the Catholic Pope would question God's motives. I had always thought that the Catholic church were like Pangloss in Candide ("All is for the best in this the best of all possible worlds").

lagatta · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 3:06 pm Post subject:

It is bizarre. It was a positive thing (though too little, too late) for Ratzi to make this trip (did he mention murdered gay people? Rather doubt it...), but he seems to be underestimating the degree to which average citizens (not only in Germany but in occupied Europe and allied fascist states) assented to these crimes and often derived material benefit by saying the neighbour was a partisan, a Jew or whatever.

And although I'm a hardcore atheist, it was human beings who remained silent. If I were a believer, I'd say God gave human beings the capacity to recognise right and wrong.

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pogo · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 3:25 pm Post subject:

To take from Voltaire again, does the captain of the ship worry about the rats living at the bottom of the boat?

No Yards · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 3:51 pm Post subject:

Actually, to be completely accurate, the Lord didn't "remain silent" ... the Lord told the pope not to get involved ... otherwise you'd have to believe that either the pope was not infallible in matters of the word of the Lord, or that the pope didn't even bother to ask the Lord his opinion when the pope decided not to get involved.

pogo · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 5:03 pm Post subject:

Perhaps it was an IT issue.

Tommy Shanks · Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 4:08 pm Post subject:

To that point, perhaps Pius XII had the red phone at the Vatican replaced with two cans and some string. It wasn't his fault that God never picked his end up.

The Evil Twin · Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 4:31 pm Post subject:

Ratzo obviously is unaware that God doesn't talk to Catholics. He's too busy talking to evangelical Protestants like Robertson, Falwell, Orel Roberts and George W. Bush (whoever their equivalents were during WWII). Who has time for Popes? Razz

pogo · Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 9:01 pm Post subject:

DTA · Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:21 pm Post subject:

Erik Redburn · Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:23 am Post subject:

Or more to the point, why the Pope at the time was not only silent but quietly supportive. Or why He was. Bizarre is right.
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Wee Mousie · Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:15 am Post subject:

Why should God bother speaking?

Every time he has spoken or sent a messenger in the past, He's been misquoted. Rolling Eyes

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