EnMasse

[Andyinedmonton]

I am away from home so I didn't get an earlier chance to reply, Lagetta. I didn't want to suggest you were a homophobe. I know you are not from the various posts you've made over time. I just don't agree with how you made that particular point. I know you aren't a phobe.

VeeMichael not that you have to justify yourself to me at all but that explanation regarding the links made sense. I was more interested in the clarity that might be offered on what is right and what is wrong but the more I think about it - it's not possible.

Pollypeverse the feminist forum is a unique place so I have no comment about what goes on in the feminist forum but if that's going to be a general practice in other parts I am not ok with it. I don't think it's right to change someone's post and bolding a warning message for two reasons:

1) I think it's kind of common sense that Fed's posts aren't the majority and wouldn't be liked. I think she should have known that when she posted but the rule that anti-abortion posts aren't allowed in the feminist forum (and possibly the whole forum) was made AFTER her post. Someone gets that kind of a warning for not knowing what future rules would be?

2) I just think that there are less hardass ways to correct people in general.

[Stargazer]

[vee michel]

Stargazer, this is a personal attack and I am suspending you for it.

If anyone engages and attacks back at Stargazer, the same will apply.

[deBeauxOs]

[fern hill]

Plus Fed knew bloody well it wouldn't be welcome here, or on babble, where she also posts, not to mention the Dark Side where she hangs out with her anti-feminist buddies.

[Scout]

[deBeauxOs]

[Scout]

Quit threatening me. I didn't break any rules in my response to him and I did notify 2 moderators.

I want that post edited and I want an apology. From you and Heph.

Also, it would be nice if you engage all of us equally. I don't deserve your tongue lashing here in public after being the victim of more slanderous crap from Heph in a thread I wasn't involved in and then have to hear that your engaging Heph privately. How about you treat everyone equally around here based on their actions.

How about you stop giving men special priveleges by discussing their actions in private for weeks and yet women get suspended around here at the drop of a hat - always nice and publically too - no mention of how it will be discussed privately before any action is taken.

Sickening. I am fed up with the bullshit double standards on this board and in the Feminism Forum in particular.

[fern hill]

Yeah, Scout, I don't get it either. Heph misrepresents what happened back there, but isn't challenged for it because he doesn't mention any names? You correct him and you get warned?

And another yeah, wassup with PMs to some and not to others?

Seriously asking here.

[Hephaestion]

Earlier post has been modified (although I reserve the right to maintain that such was not necessary.)

Question: is it possible to "slander" someone whose name is never mentioned?

See, this is one reason I rarely infringe on the feminist forum. There's just too much placidity and calm for me...

PS to Fern: I "misrepresented" nothing.
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[deBeauxOs]

scout - you are the one who claimed that the reference in that post was about you. You also named another Babbler, which was inappropriate.

fern hill - I asked that other EnMassistas not pile into this exchange. If discussion of this particular incident continues, I will warn those who participate and I will give each and everone a 24 hour suspension. I will also close and lock this thread.

Posts of this type have to stop.

[fern hill]

[enki]

[fern hill]

deBeauxOs: I want an answer to my question. Why would PMs be used with some posters and public scoldings with others?

I'll warn you. You close this thread without answering that and well. . .

[No Yards]

Well scout, I can't comment on your issue with Heph, nor can I say I support your position on most things, but I though I might let you know that your information was very interesting.

I too never received any PM's from Mods, but instead was publicly punished with my own special "ridicule room".

I was attacked, by two Mods (well, one attacked, and the other berated me for responding to the first Mods attack.) I PMed a Mod I though I could trust to at least look into the matter of the personal attack, but no action, nor even a polite response was returned... then later in that thread I was ""warned" for commenting on what others were already commenting on.


I don't think this is a "guy vs gal" issue, seems more like some back room "balancing of the books" / intimidation going on to me.

[deBeauxOs]

[RealityBites]

Weighing in as an individual here, as we are in the FF:

1) Heph's post was wrong. He could have mentioned that someone was suspended for it, but by saying "a rather prominent female babbler" he was inviting speculation. (I should mention that I'm not aware of the actual incident at babble so I can't judge whether or not I would agree with his charactarization of it).

2) If Scout PMd the moderators and got no response or a negative one, then she'd be within her rights to raise it here. It's not clear to me when she did that, but the only discussion of the issue among the moderators was after her post here. The dragging in of swallow's comments was wrong, regardless. It only served to damage Scout's otherwise strong argument.

3) As a result of all this, Heph got what it seems like he wanted - to let people know that Scout was suspended at babble for whatever it is she said. Nothing anyone does now can erase that. If she posted here before PMing the mods, then she bears a certain degree of complicity in the revealing of an incident to those not already aware of it.

I personally think a warning to Heph would be in order and that the warning to Scout was not justified in this case.

(Edited to add: I was composing this when DBO closed the thread)