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al-Qa'bong Fulltime enMasse Member

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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Will Jimmy rub out Nucky's family, because he mistakenly thinks Thompson had his wife killed, or will Richard track down the Philly butcher and peel his face off with a rusty bayonet? _________________ "The purpose of government is to protect the weak from the powerful" Hammurabi
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I figured Jimmy would be the most obvious suspect, to Richard and the police alike, and that the season's dénouement (set up earlier with Richard's disgust that Jimmy doesn't appreciate what he has, and his scenes with Angela) would be Richard going after Jimmy. So now I'm on record for when I turn out to be completely wrong.  |
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:24 am Post subject: |
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Hmm, you could be right. The jealous husband angle certainly makes Jimmy look like a probable suspect, unless those hoodlums in NYC give Jimmy an alibi. _________________ "The purpose of government is to protect the weak from the powerful" Hammurabi
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:17 am Post subject: |
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| Wow. Looks like the action in Boardwalk Empire this season is Pareto-distributed. Holy crap. No wonder Jimmy thought World War 1 was the only sufficient source of mental floss. |
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:27 am Post subject: |
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Well, his erstwhile pals aren't going to be any help.
Geez, that Princeton flashback, with all the Jocastan allusions, was truly nauseous, then Jimmy ends up bumping off the Commodore in the penultimate scene.
What's next, he'll poke his eyen out with his trench knife? _________________ "The purpose of government is to protect the weak from the powerful" Hammurabi
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:57 am Post subject: |
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| So help me figure this out -- was I wrong to assume at the end of last episode that Jimmy was going to Princeton for exile in the "present"? If he did, did we simply not see any of that trip (or did I miss it)? If not, where was he most of the episode? |
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:34 am Post subject: |
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I thought he took a load of hooch to Princeton to sell it. He must have stayed there.
He told Angela in the last episode that he was going to New York too, though, didn't he? _________________ "The purpose of government is to protect the weak from the powerful" Hammurabi
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That episode was something else. Who would of thought the Commodore would have that much strength after suffering a massive stroke. And I loved Nucky's reaction to the long spoon parable. _________________ “If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a tractor.”
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Jimmy's mother is becoming eviller and eviller with every scene.
How about this for a season finale? van Alden will kidnap Mrs. Schroeder and take her to some underground hideaway where he'll perform unspeakable religio-perversions upon her temple of sin.
Then a redeemer will make an entrance and they'll go off to gloryland together. _________________ "The purpose of government is to protect the weak from the powerful" Hammurabi
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Maybe Gillian will use her "whiles" to lure Manny into bed. Reward or revenge will be the outcome. Maybe Richard will do a two for one clean-up. _________________ “If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a tractor.”
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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I could see "reward" maybe. She doesn't mind Angela's being murdered at all.
Yeah, Richard's due for a big scene or major role in an episode. Gillian's calling him a simpleton would be an additional provocation. _________________ "The purpose of government is to protect the weak from the powerful" Hammurabi
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| sparqui wrote: | | And I loved Nucky's reaction to the long spoon parable. |
It was my reaction to the same parable once upon a time. Also, did anyone else catch Van Alden dropping a Bartleby, the Scrivener reference when Mickey Doyle offered him the location of the meet? |
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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Nope, I didn't catch "I would prefer not to."
Would Nucky therefore be the White Whale in this tale?
And here I was thinking that this wasn't a terribly cultured discussion. _________________ "The purpose of government is to protect the weak from the powerful" Hammurabi
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The Princeton flashbacks kind or reminded me more of F. Scott Fitzgerald. _________________ “If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a tractor.”
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:38 am Post subject: |
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Geez, playing "Look For the Silver Lining" while Nucky bumps off Jimmy?
I didn't see that coming either.
I'd been rooting for Nucky until that. He's not nice at all. Where's Tony Soprano when you need him?
I suppose Nucky and Jimmy's mom will end up together by the end of the series. _________________ "The purpose of government is to protect the weak from the powerful" Hammurabi
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| Good for BE for having the courage to follow through on where the plot demanded it go. A lot of other shows I've been watching (Dexter, Sons of Anarchy) have gone to ludicrous lengths to keep characters around and put off crucial plot developments. |
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:28 am Post subject: |
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I thought Nucky'd have Jimmy ice Margaret. Jimmy went way out of his way to make it up to Nucky, who bushwacked him anyway, maybe at Eli's suggestion.
The Eli-Enoch Greek tragedy will have to play out somehow next season.
Richard is going to go Macbeth on the cast any episode now...
The music on the show is going to start getting better; 1923 saw a lot of progress from the rinky-tink stuff that existed until then. _________________ "The purpose of government is to protect the weak from the powerful" Hammurabi
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sparqui Dog tired

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Was that the season finale?
I heard rumour that Jimmy would get killed but I didn't think it would be by Nucky. What the hell? And why?
The other gangsters didn't care if the Philadelphia Butcher was killed. So I don't understand why Jimmy and not him?
And holy f*ck, Margaret signing over the property deed for that tract of land (where they plan to build a highway) to the church. That's doesn't bode well.
As for the Commodore's death and will, seems like history is easily re-written. _________________ “If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a tractor.”
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| sparqui wrote: | Was that the season finale?
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Yep.
| sparqui wrote: | I heard rumour that Jimmy would get killed but I didn't think it would be by Nucky. What the hell? And why?
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As a "full" gangster now, Nucky couldn't let the attempt on his life go unanswered. With both Eli and Jimmy reaching out to him to reconcile, and with each putting responsibility for the hit on the other, Nucky first establishes his options (whether he even *could* kill Horvitz without pissing off A.R.) before telling Rothstein he "has a decision to make". In the end, Nucky decided blood was thicker than water -- perhaps recalling when Eli came to him begging for a second chance -- even though we know it was Eli pushing to have him murdered. And Jimmy knew what was going to happen, too -- why else arrive unarmed?
In the end, Nucky learned Jimmy's lessons all too well, while Jimmy was blind to what Nucky's been trying to teach him since he robbed that drop in the pilot. (As for the Commodore, those who are fellow history buffs may be interested to know, after the discussion of naming a street after him, that there is indeed a Kuehnle Avenue in Atlantic City, named after the real-life Louis "The Commodore" Kuehnle after he died of old age in 1934.) |
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It looks as if "Chuck" has bitten the dust, despite the heroes' vanquishing of all the villains.
This is probably a good thing, as the show has gone kind of goofy over the last season (and this from a show based in goofiness). _________________ "The purpose of government is to protect the weak from the powerful" Hammurabi
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| Yeah, I was not much a fan of this last season. |
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| We have been watching Breaking Bad, and enjoying that quite a bit. |
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| Jim Moriarty, from the BBC Sherlock. So delightfully insane and so, so evil. |
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I was terribly disappointed in the show when it went sideways, but I'd say any discussion of villains has to include Benjamin from Lost.
And I don't see Richard Harrow as a villain on the order of most of the other characters in BE. |
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| al-Qa'bong wrote: | The writers of Big Bang Theory are becoming the show's worst villains.
I fear this show has jumped the shark. The Raj-Penny sexual fiasco is one thing, but Sheldon, who was once a plausible caricature of a science nerd, has now become a parody of his erstwhile character. |
Here's rather villainous MIT nerd. Maybe the show could create a character just like him, or Sheldon could add a new dimension to his already-warped personality.
| Quote: | A researcher at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology was busted by undercover cops, after he tried to set up a sexual tryst with a woman and her two daughters – one of whom was 12.
Yaron Segal, 30, set up the sordid meeting with a woman he met in an internet chat room. |
MIT researcher flew to Colorado for sex tryst with a mother and two daughters, ages 12 and 16
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| Of course I am happy they caught that guy, but you would think an MIT dude would be smart enough to case the joint and see they weren't waiting for him, especially with an obvious trap like that. |
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One point that The Big Bang Theory has been making throughout the series is that these geniuses aren't smart in everything. _________________ "The purpose of government is to protect the weak from the powerful" Hammurabi
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Toby on East Bound and Down is some kinda Damian/The Omen character.
Will Kenny Powers get back on track now that April has taken Toby back?
[ed.] I just looked up this show on the Intertubes and found that it's in its third and last season now. I just started watching it a few weeks ago. Heck fire! _________________ "The purpose of government is to protect the weak from the powerful" Hammurabi
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| I suddenly realized this thread had been allowed to exist without a mention of Boyd Crowder from Justified, and felt an immediate urge to rectify this omission. |
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I recorded a movie about Arnold Rothstein that was on TV a couple of weeks ago. David Janssen ("The Fugitive" and the lesser-known "O'Hara") plays Rothstein, and Mickey Rooney is his sidekick.
I haven't been able to finish watching it. That Boardwalk Empire guy has ruined me for any other Arnold Rothstein. _________________ "The purpose of government is to protect the weak from the powerful" Hammurabi
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| Quote: | | Yaron Segal, 30, set up the sordid meeting with a woman he met in an internet chat room. |
Apparently while in prison awaiting trial he arranged a meeting with his maker. _________________ There is this old notion, Bolshevik, a little frigid for sure; the building of the Party. I think that our present war is about giving new content to this depopulated fiction. |
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Anyways, I watched a back episode of Real Time the other day with the On Demand service, because there happened to be a guest I wanted to hear from, but was first expected to endure Dan Rather as the guest directly following the opening monologue. Not that he was any favorite of mine or anything, but he definitely qualifies as a villain, and an unrepentant one at that for his many years of villainy on TV. _________________ There is this old notion, Bolshevik, a little frigid for sure; the building of the Party. I think that our present war is about giving new content to this depopulated fiction. |
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| Favourite TV villain: Will Wheaton, Brent Spiner, Joyce Kim,Eric Gablehauser, Priya Koothrappali, Kurt, Dennis Kim, Leslie Winkle |
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You say "villain," yet you give us a list.
Are you saying these characters are all manifestations of a single malevolent spirit?
That Dr. Cruz on Nurse Jackie is one ornery cuss. _________________ "The purpose of government is to protect the weak from the powerful" Hammurabi
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Old Blind Willie on Eagleheart. He tried to kill the blues!
Runner up, The Scatman. |
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Joffrey Barathian from the Game of Thrones is a nasty piece of work.
Nurse Jackie's Dr. Cruz doesn't seem to have any redeeming qualities. He a very everyday, real life villain. _________________ “If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a tractor.”
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Maybe he's a metaphor for the US health system.
I caught some of a show called "Shameless" last night. I'd seen a bit of it once before. That's a rather messed-up family they have there. _________________ "The purpose of government is to protect the weak from the powerful" Hammurabi
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| al-Qa'bong wrote: | | Maybe he's a metaphor for the US health system. |
Speaking of, since that time's rolling around again (next month!), I nominate Walter White for the new villains list. |
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| cco wrote: | | al-Qa'bong wrote: | | Maybe he's a metaphor for the US health system. |
Speaking of, since that time's rolling around again (next month!), I nominate Walter White for the new villains list. |
I agree, though I'd say he's his own worst enemy more than anything.
Then again, if he weren't paranoid, arrogant, and oblivious to the consequences of his actions they probably wouldn't have a TV show. |
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Bernie Kopell as Siegfried from the old TV series, Get Smart. Everything was , This is KAOS, we don't_____. He played the doctor on The Love Boat, another oldie.
"This is KAOS, we don't shoosh around here." or "This is KAOS, ve don't 'vroom vroom' here." _________________ Democracy should more appropriately be referred to as Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power. - George Washington |
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Oldies?
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ha! Heph would have liked that one.
Arte Johnson from Laugh in, another retro series. "Verrry interesting..." _________________ Democracy should more appropriately be referred to as Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power. - George Washington |
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Sometimes the villains were more fun than the heroes.
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Boris and Natasha! Good-good! I haven't seen that one in a long time. I think the cold war was still on then.
From Transylvania 6-5000:
Count Blood: I am a vampire!
Bugs: Oh, yeah? Well, abacadabra! I'm an umpire! _________________ Democracy should more appropriately be referred to as Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power. - George Washington |
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I was never quite sure if Bugs was supposed to be the villain or hero in many of those cartoons. He was quite subversive.
And the "villains"? (like Count Bloodcount, Elmer, the French Canadian lumberjack Blackjaques Shellaque and Yosemite Sam) They were so pathetic and easily fooled I felt sorry for them. _________________ I can't support bike lanes. Roads are built for buses, cars, and trucks. My heart bleeds when someone gets killed, but it's their own fault at the end of the day. - Assclown Rob Ford |
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| Quote: | | I nominate Walter White for the new villains list |
Not sure he'd survive a cage match with Al Swearengen. But if he can avoid getting eaten by Woo's hogs I'll second the nomination. |
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I watched the premiere episode of HBO "Girls" last night and was not impressed. Are they villains? Not really but they sure make young women look dreadful - self-obsessed, entitled anti-hipster slackers.
Here's a review:
http://www.alternet.org/culture/155268/the_horror_of_hbo%27s_%22gir... _________________ “If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a tractor.”
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Oof, sparqui, what an awful show.
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sparqui Dog tired

Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Posts: 5154 Location: Winnipeg
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:22 am Post subject: |
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That poster is brilliant, cco.  _________________ “If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a tractor.”
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Slumberjack Fulltime enMasse Member
Joined: 13 Jul 2010 Posts: 922 Location: squelch~~big waves and high smiles from the stomach and intestine of capital.
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Theory of the Young Girl
| Quote: | Let's be clear: the concept of the 'Young-Girl' is obviously not a gendered concept. The nightclub-going jock conforms to it just as much as the second-generation North African girl painted up to look pornstar old. The spirited telecom retiree that splits his leisure time between the Cote d'Azur and the Parisian offices where he's kept a foot in the door, and the metropolitan single too caught up in her career in consulting to realize that she's already lost fifteen years of her life to it - both obey the concept. After all, how would it be so easy to see the secret connection linking the plugged-in, puffed-up, civil-unioned humanity from the hip neighborhood and the petty-bourgeois Americanized girl in the suburbs with her plastic family, if it were a gendered concept?
In reality, the Young-Girl is only the model citizen such as commodity society has defined it since world war one, as an explicit response to revolutionary threats against it. As such, she is a polar figure, guiding becoming more than predominating in it.
At the beginning of the 20s, in effect, capitalism noticed that it couldn't maintain itself as the exploitation of human labor without also colonizing everything found beyond strictly the sphere of production. Faced with the socialists' challenge to its dominance, it too needed to socialize itself. It thus had to create its own culture, leisure, medicine, urbanism, sentimental education, and morals, and also create a disposition towards their perpetual renewal. This would become the fordist compromise, the welfare state, family planning: Social-Democracy Capitalism. And now, submission by work, limited because the worker is still separate from his or her work, has been replaced by integration through subjective and existential conformity, meaning, at root, by consumption.
From being merely formal, Capital's domination has become little by little real. The commodity society now seeks to find its best supports in the marginalized elements of traditional society themselves - women and youths first, then homosexuals and immigrants.
Commodity society can now give an air of emancipation to those that in the past it treated as minorities, who were the most foreign and most spontaneously hostile to commodity society, not having been folded into its dominant norms of integration. "The youth and their mothers," acknowledges Stuart Ewen, "will supply the social principles of consumer ethics to the lifestyles offered by advertising." The youth, because adolescence is "a period of life defined by a relationship of pure consumption with civil society." (Stuart Ewen, Captains of Consciousness ). And women, because at the time it was the sphere of reproduction, over which women still held sway, that they needed to colonize. Youth and Femininity, hypostatized, abstract, and recoded into youthitude and feminitude, are then elevated to the rank of ideal regulators of empire-citizen integration. And the figure of the Young-Girl thus realizes an immediate, spontaneous, and perfectly desirable unity between those two variables.
The tomboy is indispensable as a kind of modernity, much more thrilling than all the stars and starlets so quickly invading the globalized imagination. Albertine, found on the wall around a seaside resort, exhausts the whole collapsing world of [Proust's] "in search of lost time" with her relaxed, pansexual vitality. The high school girl makes her will the law in Ferdydurke. And a new authority figure is born, one that out-classes them all. |
_________________ There is this old notion, Bolshevik, a little frigid for sure; the building of the Party. I think that our present war is about giving new content to this depopulated fiction. |
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