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Hephaestion
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Gunfire at DC Holocaust Museum as white supremacist freeper shoots up DC museum
| Quote: | | More domestic terrorism as an 88 year-old white supremacist opens fire at the National Holocaust Museum in Washington DC. Security guard and gunman both wounded. President notified. Think Progress reports that the shooter is Freeper. Shocker. |
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| Quote: | | UPDATE: Here is the alleged shooter's website. Over on Free Republic, where the members still apparently don't know the shooter is one of their own, commenters are CERTAIN the culprit is either a "muzzie" or is part of an Obama plot to embarrass the right wing. |
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Glenn Beck Guest: Liberalism=Racism
| Quote: | | Some talking toupee from the Ayn Rand Institute appeared on Glenn Beck's show last night to say that the Holocaust Museum shooter was actually a leftist, because, "Racism is a form of collectivism. The right wing is individualist." Beck goes on to invoke Rev. Jeremiah Wright as an example of left wing racists. |
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| ...and, as an anti-semite, racist and nazi, is of course, a "phenomenon of the left." |
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Hephaestion
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GAAA!!! The terr'ists are INSIDE the gates! Oh, wait... it's one of OUR guys...
12 killed, 31 wounded in shooting rampage on Texas Army post
| Quote: | An Army psychiatrist set to be shipped overseas opened fire at the Fort Hood, Texas, Army post Thursday, authorities said, a rampage that killed 12 people and left 31 wounded in the worst mass shooting ever at a military base in the United States.
The gunman, first said to have been killed, was wounded but alive and in stable condition under military guard, said Lt. Gen. Bob Cone at Fort Hood. "I would say his death is not imminent," Cone said. Col. Ben Danner said the suspect was shot four times and was in critical condition.
The man was identified as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, a 39-year-old from Virginia.
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There was no official word on motive. Hasan had transferred to Fort Hood in July from Walter Reed Medical Center, where he received a poor performance evaluation, according to an official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the case publicly.
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Lee said Hasan had hoped Obama would pull troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq and got into frequent arguments with others in the military who supported the wars.
Faizul Khan, a former imam at a mosque Hasan attended in Silver Spring, Maryland, said he spoke often with Hasan about how Hasan wanted to find a wife. Hasan was a lifelong Muslim and attended prayers regularly, often in his Army uniform, Khan said. |
A Muslim, eh? That'll be all the Freepers need to Release the Hounds...
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DemocracyNow, unlike MSM, was adequately informative on this situation today. Psychologically, this has similities to 'battered wife murdered abuser in self-defense' or 'kids react by killing bullies and others' cases. If nothing else, idealistically, it was a failure of 'command'.
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/11/6/in_worst_ever_shooting_of_its
In Worst-Ever Shooting of Its Kind, 13 Dead, 30 Wounded at Ft. Hood Military Base; Suspect Had Reportedly Complained of Anti-Muslim Bias ... |
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Senor Magoo
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Most mass murderers don't expect to see the end of their Big Day. If this guy survives, he'll be able to tell us in his own words why he did what he did. This is actually a pretty rare opportunity.
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bshmr
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Magoo, that was very idea-istic of you. A) kept on respirator in a coma might be state-of-the-art trauma medicine, or not; ... Z) 'why'(s) in the social, personal sense are untestable and may not be either rational or accepted.
Though, clearly, the event was a failure of 'Command', the directly related hierarchy of command. |
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A lot more important than the specific motivation of the killer is the aftermath. The US is wound up like an 8-day clock, and who knows what will be the result of this.
In fact, the specific motivation (rational or otherwise) hardly matters. What does matter is how the act is seen in the broader society. As someone pointed out, the Freepers will be having a field day, and who knows what the crazies like Glenn Beck will say.
This event has the potential to light a fuse, but we had better hope it doesn't. The first result of larger clashes would be a throng of US citizens seeking peace and safety in Canada. How would (could?) we handle that.
In another couple of years, when the results of the Bush administrations economic policies really start to sink in, an event like this could trigger serious clashes throughout the US. We've already seen armed civilians showing up at public meetings. Like drunken rowdies, they are working themselves up to real fighting. How many more 'feints' will there be before the action starts?
Unfortunately there are no progressive leaders in the US to try and set a course. Deeper debt, higher unemployment and the loss of hope are the gasoline, future mass murders could very well be the spark. That is, if this one isn't...
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A deceit by the military and government re-visited. Several anecdotes were disgusting.
http://us.oneworld.net/article/367917-after-fort-hood-count-all-dea...
After Fort Hood: Count All the Dead
November 6, 2009; Aaron Glantz, New America Media
| Quote: | SAN FRANCISCO, Nov 6 (New America Media) - Perhaps the most depressing aspect of Thursday's shoot-out at Fort Hood is that none of the 12 people who died in the melee will be counted as casualties of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Hephaestion
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What's courage? When the Fort Hood gunman turned and shot at her, she ran toward him. She ran toward the bullets, firing. NYT profiles firearms expert Kimberly Munley.
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Did you know that Munley is petite?
Petiter than 5'4" even; by some accounts, she's 5'2". Of course, petiteness isn't just about height, but pictures are usually provided so we can be sure she isn't just short. None have been so bold as to list her weight. Not yet, anyway.
The Globe and Mail picked up an article written by two dudes from the San Antonio Express-News. Munley's petiteness is mentioned three times, and the paper added a fourth mention in the headline:
Petite officer's vicious shootout with gunman saved 'countless lives'
I'd link it, but I can't seem to find it on-line.
"She quickly earned a reputation for fearlessness, despite her small stature." (That's from the NYT article.)
So if you ever find yourself in a combat situation or something similar, go with the tall people. They have a greater propensity for bravery.
In related news, Hasan is portly and balding, although I question the validity of this description, since it was only mentioned once in the article I read. |
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That area has seen violence before:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killeen,_Texas
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On October 16, 1991, George Hennard murdered 23 people and then committed suicide in Luby's Cafeteria in Killeen (see Luby's massacre). That same year one of its high school football teams, the Killeen Kangaroos, won the 5-A state football championship. By 2000, the census listed Killeen's population as 86,911, although it is now around 100,000, making the greater Killeen area one of the fastest growing areas in the nation. A large number of military personnel from Killeen have served in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. As of April 2008, over 400 of its soldiers have died in the two wars.[3]
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Fort Hood suspect to be tried in military court
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Investigators: Fort Hood suspect apparently acted alone despite contacts with radical imam
| Quote: | The Army psychiatrist accused of the Fort Hood massacre is believed to have acted alone despite repeated communications - monitored by authorities - with a radical imam overseas, U.S. officials said. The FBI will conduct an internal review of its handling of the information, they said.
An investigative official and a Republican lawmaker said Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan was in contact with Anwar al-Awlaki, an imam released from a Yemeni jail last year, 10 to 20 times. Despite that, no formal investigation was opened into Hasan, they said.
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Hasan, awake and talking to doctors, met his lawyer Monday in the Texas hospital where he is recovering under guard from gunshot wounds in the rampage Thursday that left 13 people dead and 29 injured. Officials said he will be tried in a military court, not a civilian one.
FBI Director Robert Mueller has ordered an internal inquiry to see whether the bureau mishandled worrisome information gathered about Hasan beginning in December 2008 and continuing into early this year.
Based on all the investigations since the attack, including a review of that 2008 information, the investigators said they have no evidence that Hasan had help or outside orders in the shootings. Even so, they revealed the major had once been under scrutiny from a joint terrorism task force because of the series of communications going back months.
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They said the decision to bring military charges instead of civilian criminal charges against Hasan did not mean it wasn't a terrorism case. But it is likely authorities would have had more reason to take the case to federal court if they had found evidence Hasan acted with the support or training of a terrorist group. |
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In Fort Hood story, are reporters rushing to press too fast?
| Quote: | | Two stories on "fast news," and how the rush to press in the Fort Hood story may have led to major inaccuracies. ProPublica: "Remember the hero female cop who shot Hasan? Well, maybe she did and maybe she didn't." And, NYT: "Another officer, Senior Sgt. Mark Todd, 42, said (...) he fired the shots that brought down the gunman after Sergeant Munley was seriously wounded." |
From the comments:
| Quote: | | Another angle I've read is that the two guns he used only held 20 rounds each, but the injured suffered more than 40 wounds, i.e. friendly fire. |
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What if it wasn't because he was Muslim, but because he was a shrink? Leah McLaran at the Globe and Mail points out that psychiatrists are an unhappy bunch.
| Quote: | ... We don't know, of course, whether Hasan is or ever was a fanatic, but there is another possible contributing factor to this terrible story that should not be ignored – and that is his job as a shrink.
American mental-health practitioners need psychological help, a new report says, and they are not getting nearly enough of it. An amazingly prescient article published a few years ago in the U.S. journal Psychology Today and recently reprinted on the Huffington Post lends clinical credence to the commonly held assumption that mental-health workers (and by that the essay's author, Robert Epstein, means psychotherapists, psychologists and psychiatrists like Hasan) have historically suffered from relatively high rates of mental illness. As Epstein, a high-profile clinical psychologist himself, put it, “mental-health professionals are, in general, a fairly crazy lot – at least as troubled as the general population … The problem is that mental-health professionals do a poor job of monitoring their own mental-health problems and those of their colleagues. In fact, the main responsibility for spotting an impaired therapist seems to fall on the patient, who presumably has his or her own problems to deal with.”
... Firstly, people with a history of psychological problems seem more attracted to the profession. There is ample published research back this up. According to Epstein, an American Psychiatric Association study reported that “physicians with affective disorders tend to select psychiatry as a specialty.” And a 1993 study found therapists reported higher rates of family dysfunction, parental alcoholism, sexual and physical abuse and parental death or psychiatric hospitalization than their peers in other professions. Even Anna Freud, the daughter of Sigmund and a respected shrink in her own right, once admitted that her “most sophisticated defence mechanism in life was becoming a psychotherapist.”
The second reason is the nature of the job itself. Most therapists are continually exposed to disturbed, depressed and often violent and/or suicidal individuals. Indeed, it is their duty to interact with them. As Epstein put it, “virtually all mental health-professionals agree that the profession is inherently hazardous. It takes superhuman strength for most people just to listen to a neighbour moan about his lousy marriage for 15 minutes.” |
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Hephaestion
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A former BF of mine had a father who was a shrink, and his dad had serious "issues". 'Nuff said.
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All mental helth professionals should "work under supervision" -- that is, be counseled by third parties about their case-load and reactions day to day. It used to be 'standard, accepted, recommended practice'. It didn't stop all the problems but it does reduce the occurrence a) sexual misconduct, b) ego distortions (particularly the dreaded 'doctor as god/tyrant'), c) a few naps of fantasy or dogma during reality <G>, and d) cleans up 'staff dynamics'.
OTT, I did see a MSM reference to 'punishing/correcting' the failures of Command in this case as well as several others (which led to AWOLs, suicides, etc). BTW, we should all be aware that the Fort Hood event qualifies as a 'suicide attempt' by a very, probably justifiably, angry man. |
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Austin, TX government building attacked with crashing airplane
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A private plane has crashed into an IRS building in Austin, Texas, killing the pilot and his passenger. It appears that the pilot burned his own house down prior to boarding the plane and left a long rambling manifesto decrying the U.S. government's bailout of General Motors, among other things.
| Quote: | | Why is it that a handful of thugs and plunderers can commit unthinkable atrocities (and in the case of the GM executives, for scores of years) and when it’s time for their gravy train to crash under the weight of their gluttony and overwhelming stupidity, the force of the full federal government has no difficulty coming to their aid within days if not hours? Yet at the same time, the joke we call the American medical system, including the drug and insurance companies, are murdering tens of thousands of people a year and stealing from the corpses and victims they cripple, and this country’s leaders don’t see this as important as bailing out a few of their vile, rich cronies. Yet, the political “representatives” (thieves, liars, and self-serving scumbags is far more accurate) have endless time to sit around for year after year and debate the state of the “terrible health care problem”. It’s clear they see no crisis as long as the dead people don’t get in the way of their corporate profits rolling in. |
Some sites are already calling this the action of a deranged teabagger, but there's not clear evidence of that yet.
UPDATE: Teabaggers have created a tribute page to the pilot on Facebook. |
Shockingly the terrorist seemed to be white and non-Muslim... must be the proverbial "lone nut", I guess...
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Teabaggers: "The gummint done crashed that plane inta their own bilding!"
| Quote: | | The 9/11 Truthers are already claiming that the plane crash in Austin was a "false flag op" by the federal government, presumably to discredit the teabaggers. According to the Crazy People, fire trucks and HazMat teams were already in place outside the IRS office prior to the crash, awaiting the arrival of the plane. |
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Although this rambles some, the author makes a solid point repeatedly.
http://www.countercurrents.org/roberts230210.htm
America’s First Suicide Bomber
By Paul Craig Roberts; 23 February, 2010; Vdare.com
| Quote: | Joseph Stack, frustrated American, flew his airplane into an Austin, Texas, office building. He was one of the 79 percent of Americans who have given up on "their" government.
The latest Rasmussen Poll indicates that the vast majority of Americans are convinced that "their" government is totally unresponsive to them, their concerns, and their needs. Rasmussen found that only 21 percent of the American population agrees that the U.S. government has the consent of the governed, and that 21 percent is comprised of the political class itself and liberals. Rasmussen concludes that the gap between the American population and the politicians who rule them "may be as big today as the gap between the colonies and England during the 18th century."
Indications are that Joseph Stack was sane. Like Palestinians faced with Israeli jet fighters, helicopter gunships, tanks, missiles and poison gas, Stack realized that he was powerless. A suicide attack was the only weapon left to him.
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Joseph Stack, Terry Hoskins, and 79 percent of the American population came to the realization that government does not represent them. Government represents moneyed interests for whom it bends the rules designed to protect the public, thus creating a legally privileged class.
In contrast, as at the West end of Inlet Beach, ordinary citizens are being driven into the ground.
This is what we call "freedom and democracy."
Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury during President Reagan’s first term. He was Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal. paulcraigroberts@yahoo.com |
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Bloody hell, which is such a load of loaded crap itself. Sure their government is unresponsive to them and beholden to moneyed interests. I would totally agree with that assessment, but...
| Quote: | | Rasmussen found that only 21 percent of the American population agrees that the U.S. government has the consent of the governed, and that 21 percent is comprised of the political class itself and liberals |
Fucking seriously? Right, it's the liberal elites who are the problem, sure. The problem is that both parties have strayed from their conservative routes and have gone socialist, again? Now I'm aware that there are (or would be, if anybody were even trying) significant systematic and institutional barriers to overcome in reforming the system to be more responsible, accountable, and geared toward serving the interests of "the people", and that "liberal" is little more than a bogeyman term in the US and Rasmussen is not the most balanced polling firm when it comes to framing issues, but doesn't that 79% who don't feel represented have quite the hefty precedent to look back upon when it comes to popular dissatisfaction being co-opted by exactly the groups responsible for the problem in slightly modified guises using a good old-fashioned Red scare? Does it ever get old for them? Fool my grandfather 4 times, my parents 5 times, myself 4 times shame on you; fool us all 15 times, shame on me? Doesn't that get tiring, after a while? |
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| Quote: | | Like Palestinians faced with Israeli jet fighters, helicopter gunships, tanks, missiles and poison gas, Stack realized that he was powerless. A suicide attack was the only weapon left to him. |
LOL. Nice comparison. A people, colonized and brutalized for over 40 years, and a man who doesn't want to pay taxes.
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| Senor Magoo wrote: | | Quote: | | Like Palestinians faced with Israeli jet fighters, helicopter gunships, tanks, missiles and poison gas, Stack realized that he was powerless. A suicide attack was the only weapon left to him. |
LOL. Nice comparison. A people, colonized and brutalized for over 40 years, and a man who doesn't want to pay taxes. |
Agreed Magoo. That author has appropriated the struggle of a colonized people and applied it to a well off white man who was upset about having to pay his share of taxes.
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Governments From Around the World ADMIT That They Carry Out False Flag Terror
| Quote: | "This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector." - Plato
"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."- U.S. President James Madison
"Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death". - Adolph Hitler |
Gladio BBC video
Release the Cuban Five Anti-terrorist Patriots
America makes no distinction between the terrorists and the countries that harbor them. If you harbor a terrorist, you're just as guilty as the terrorists and you're an enemy of the United States of America. - Dubya to the American Legion
Their Terrorists Or Ours? Luis Posada Carriles and the CIA (He's a proud terrorist)
US "enhanacing" terror Chomsky on how to stop terrorism
It's not conspiracy when western governments admit to having planned and perpetrated false flag terror.
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Michigan: Nine tied to Christian fundamentalist militia charged in plot to murder cops, bomb funeral procession and touch off anti-government revolt
| Quote: | Nine members of a Michigan-based Christian militia group have been indicted on sedition and weapons charges in connection with an alleged plot to murder law enforcement officers in hopes of setting off an anti-government uprising.
In court filings unsealed Monday, the Justice Department accused the nine people of planning to kill an unidentified law enforcement officer, then plant improvised explosive devices of a type used by insurgents in Iraq to attack the funeral procession.
Eight of the defendants were arrested over the weekend in raids in Michigan, Ohio and Indiana. A ninth remained at large, the Justice Department said. The indictments against them were returned last Tuesday. The defendants were identified as members of Hutaree, described by federal prosecutors as an anti-government extremist organization based in Lenawee County, Michigan, and which advocates violence against local, state and federal law enforcement. The group saw local and state police as “foot soldiers” for the federal government, which it viewed as its enemy, along with participants in what they deemed to be a “New World Order,” according to the indictment.
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A Web site for the Hutaree group talks about a coming battle against the putative forces of the Antichrist but does not appear to focus explicitly on recent political events.
The Web site, which describes the group as “preparing for the end times,” featured video clips of people running through woods in camouflage gear and firing assault rifles, along with links to gun stores and far-right media. It also features an elaborate system of military ranks for its members. The site says it coined the term Hutaree, intended to mean Christian warrior.
“Jesus wanted us to be ready to defend ourselves using the sword and stay alive using equipment,” the Web site says, adding, “The Hutaree will one day see its enemy and meet him on the battlefield if so God wills it.” |
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You just beat me to posting this Heph.
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More on these loonies @ boingboing:
Christian militia group accused of seditious conspiracy, attempted use of WMDs
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Nine members of a Christian militia group known as Hutaree (website Google cache) were today indicted on multiple charges involving an alleged plot to attack police, including seditious conspiracy and attempted use of weapons of mass destruction, announced the U.S. Attorney in Michigan. Reports: New York Times, Talking Points Memo. No coincidence they're in Michigan, it would seem: the group reportedly planned attacks on Muslims in Detroit and elsewhere. The state is home to some of America's largest and most densely populated Muslim communities.
"I wonder if these fundamentalist extremist terrorists will be waterboarded and held without trial indefinitely," quipped a friend of a friend.
Above, while it lasts, what is purported to be a Hutaree-produced video grabbed from hutaree.com. The video features guys in camo traipsing through the forest, over a Sisters of Mercy track (Christian militias are into goth? Okay.)
The website makes much reference to a "Christian Republic," "end time battles," and the voices of "Christian martyrs," "Jesus warriors," and talk of "Jesus and the ten virgins." If you translated this website into Arabic, you'd have the sort of stuff that's presented to America as the reason we're in Afghanistan and Iraq.
While the homepage is inaccessible, some portions of the site are accessible at the publish time of this blog post, including details about a training camp planned for April 24, and their rank taxonomy. The top guys in the organization are known as RADOK [RD], BORAMANDER [BM], ZULIF [ZL], and ARKON [AK], and the lowest guys are "gunners." The Hutaree doctine is spelled out here. From the "About us" page:
| Quote: | | Christ is our king of kings and top general of all things, for we are not of this world but we live in it. The Hutaree will one day see its enemy and meet him on the battlefield if so God wills it. We will reach out to those who are yet blind in the last days of the kingdoms of men and bring them to life in Christ. (...) Oh and don't forget that you can write us through the contact us link on the Hutaree homepage. Once again thanks for visiting Hutaree.com and may Christ bless you widely. |
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There web site is horrible. Between all the biblical verses, militia gear and camouflage background, it's amazing that anyone had the patience to pull a quote.
I heard an interview with someone from the Southern Poverty Law Center on "As It Happens" the other night. He has authored a report on this group and and the rise of militia movements in general. Over 300 new groups were formed in 2009 alone.
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Of course there are more militias. There's a black Muslim socialist in the White House. That's the Sixth Seal.
I think the U.S. left should really hammer on the whole Xtian terrorism thing. I hope they themselves are not too busy singing hymns and saying grace to do the right thing.
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Two separate rallies for gun-nuts are happening in DC on the anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing. Rachel Maddow gets into it...
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Militia Targets Dozens Of State Governors With Threats Of "Removal"
| Quote: | The FBI is warning state governors today that recent letters sent by the militia group Guardians Of The Free Republics may provoke violence against them. The group has mailed letters to dozens of governors saying that if they don't resign, they'll be taken out by unnamed means.
| Quote: | The FBI expects all 50 governors will eventually receive such letters. Governors whose offices reported getting the letters included Jennifer Granholm of Michigan, Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, Chet Culver of Iowa, Dave Heineman of Nebraska, Jim Gibbons of Nevada, Brad Henry of Oklahoma, Mike Rounds of South Dakota, Bob McDonnell of Virginia, and Gary Herbert of Utah, where officials stepped up security in response to the letter. In Nevada, screening machines for visitors and packages were added to the main entrance to the state Capitol as a precaution. "We're not really overly concerned, but at the same time we don't want to sit back and do nothing and regret it," Deputy Chief of Staff Lynn Hettrick said.
Granholm spokeswoman Liz Boyd said federal authorities had alerted the governor that such a letter might be coming, and it arrived Monday or Tuesday. Boyd, who described the letter as "non-threatening," said it was opened by a staffer and immediately turned over to the Michigan State Police. Jindal's office confirmed that the governor had received one of the letters and directed questions to the Louisiana State Police. "They called us as they do for any letter that's out of the norm," said Lt. Doug Cain, a state police spokesman. He declined to provide specifics about the letter, but said, "not knowing the group and the information contained in the letter warranted state police to review it." The FBI warning comes at a time of heightened attention to far-right extremist groups after the arrest of nine Christian militia members last weekend accused of plotting violence. |
In the clip below, a supporter of the Guardians displays his weapons, talks about Barack Obama's birth certificate, and provides shopping advice about stocking food supplies for the coming civil war... |
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On Christian Terrorism
| Quote: | Alternet today features a lengthy essay on the rise of Christian terrorism seen recently via the murders of abortion providers and the resurgence of heavily armed Christian militias.
| Quote: | | Christian terrorism has returned to America with a vengeance. And it is not just [Dr. Tiller's murderer] Roeder. When members of the Hutaree militia in Michigan and Ohio recently were arrested with plans to kill a random policeman and then plant Improvised Explosive Devices in the area where the funeral would be held to kill hundreds more, this was a terrorist plot of the sort that would impress Shi’ite militia and al Qaeda activists in Iraq. The Southern Poverty Law Center, founded by Morris Dees, which has closely watched the rise of right-wing extremism in this country for many decades, declares that threats and incidents of right-wing violence have risen 200% in this past year—unfortunately coinciding with the tenure of the first African-American president in US history. When Chip Berlet, one of this country’s best monitors of right-wing extremism, warned in a perceptive essay last week on RD that the hostile right-wing political climate in this country has created the groundwork for a demonic new form of violence and terrorism, I fear that he is correct. |
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| Quote: | Earlier today, there was an apparent bombing near the finish line of the Boston Marathon that, according to preliminary reports, has left two people dead and dozens more injured.
In response, and utterly without any evidence, frequent Fox News contributor Erik Rush tweeted out a message blaming the bombing on Muslim terrorists, saying "Everybody do the National Security Ankle Grab! Let's bring more Saudis in without screening them! C'mon! #bostonmarathon."
That prompted another Twitter user to chastize Rush for making such unsupported accusations, which prompted Rush to respond with a call for all Muslims to be killed |
Erik Rush: Kill All Muslims in Response to Boston Marathon Attack
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The local CBC radio program today had an interview with some former CSIS "expert" on terrorism. He mentioned that an envelope of sarin had been sent to someone, which he took to mean as a sign that the Boston bombing was the work of domestic terrorists and not al-Qaeda.
The CBC host's reaction to this was, "So we can all breathe easier, then?"
Huh?
Not that I'm worried at all about terrorism on Regina's mighty shores, but the host seemed to be inferring that because the "terrorist" is local, he isn't as dangerous as those kill-crazy Arabs and Muslims.
By the way, I just saw a headline on the Metro cage-liner saying that security is going to be increased at Saskatchewan marathons now.
Where the heck's my gol-durn faceplant smiley?
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DUH
I didn't think the marathon was the target...here, I thought it was the crowd... silly me...
so all I have to do is stay away from marathons. I could still go to rock concerts, playoff hockey games, baseball world series...ride the subway... take a bus... watch the 24 May parade...
just don't try running 26 miles or watching those who do...
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Man Is Arrested in Ricin Scare
| Quote: | WASHINGTON—Federal agents arrested a Mississippi man Wednesday for allegedly sending suspicious letters to President Barack Obama and a U.S. senator, bringing a nervous day in the nation's capital to an end.
Paul Kevin Curtis was arrested at his home in Corinth, Miss., the Federal Bureau of Investigation said. Authorities said he sent a similar letter to an unidentified Mississippi justice official. The FBI didn't immediately describe the charges against him.
Officials said a number of law-enforcement agencies are weighing potential charges against Mr. Curtis, ranging from sending threatening or harassing letters, to creating a hoax poison attack, to sending life-threatening material through the mail. |
Paul Kevin Curtis from Mississippi, eh? No doubt one of them Mooslem terrists! Quick, let's nuke Iran, or Mecca....or something.
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All the hype over this terrorism-related event is becoming nauseous. TSN kept showing the tribute to the heroes of Boston that opened the Bruins-Sabres game last night, and CBC radio even played a portion of the celebration on the news this morning.
What are all those flag-waving, "USA USA" - chanting baboons going to do once they discover that some home-grown Anders Breivik set off his bombs in a patriotic display of Boston Tea Party Minuteman nostalgia?
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I know my brain doesn't always work the way other peoples' brains do, and I know I have a sometimes very nasty streak I have to work to control. That said... even while watching the pandemonium, the injured being rushed, bleeding, to trauma centers, I kept flashing on those damned drone attacks and how far the critically wounded Afghani children would have to be taken before they could get medical care of even the most basic kind.
Drones have blown up a wedding party, they've turned to grue a group of teen-aged boys who were gathering firewood, they've wiped out several generations of an innocent civilian family...the list of atrocity is too long and the carnage continues.
Either the American people are willing for these attacks to happen or the media isn't reporting the horror. Or both.
I don't care who you are or what your stated intentions are, if you send out a drone and it wipes out my treasures, I'll hate you to the end of my days and will do whatever possible to send a few of yours to the other side just so you know what it feels like.
Sometimes it almost seems as if the US and their drones are in cahoots with the Taliban; the more innocents are slaughtered by the drones the more enraged people are turned against "the crusaders" and move to help the Taliban...
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| Quote: | | so all I have to do is stay away from marathons. |
Or, like Steve Martin, don't stand near the oil cans.
| Quote: | | I know my brain doesn't always work the way other peoples' brains do, and I know I have a sometimes very nasty streak I have to work to control. That said... even while watching the pandemonium, the injured being rushed, bleeding, to trauma centers, I kept flashing on those damned drone attacks and how far the critically wounded Afghani children would have to be taken before they could get medical care of even the most basic kind. |
I'm waiting to see sports fans (as the most immediate example) take a minute of silence at a hockey game and show some empathy for all the drone victims ("bug splat" in yanqui parlance).
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Maybe a few...unfortunately, probably only a few... will begin to equate the terror in Boston to the terror the Afhan civilian population feels.
The truly sick part of it is that increasingly, some people seem already convinced the perpetrator of the Boston explosions is Muslim.
The hatred is pervasive. I had to get my daughter to fritz with this computer and block incoming crap from two different acquaintances who were sending me these "wake-up calls" which I'm sure would fit the legal definition of hate material. They seem convinced Muslims are to blame for everything, including dandruff and athlete's foot.
I tried to discuss it with them, but... didn't even help to quote their own Saviour "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"... they know what they know and want the rest of us to know it ,too.
I know I'm capable of anger, and even of rage, but I can't hate on anything approaching that level. I tell myself it is fear that makes people that batshit hateful, but fear of what? |
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The guy who wrote The Islamophobia Industry, which I just finished reading, linked the current fear of Muslims to earlier fears of commies and witchcraft, among other bogeypersons. People in the USA are fed fear from infancy.
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Oh please.
| Quote: | Police say they have arrested two men accused of conspiring to carry out an "al-Qaeda supported" attack targeting a Via passenger train in the Greater Toronto Area, following a cross-border investigation that involved Canadian and American law enforcement.
...RCMP officials said the two accused were plotting to derail a passenger train. Jennifer Strachan, chief superintendent of RCMP criminal operations in the province of Ontario, said the two suspects watched trains and railways in the Greater Toronto Area. There was a specific route targeted, not necessarily a specific train, Strachan said, although she declined to reveal the route.
"We are alleging that these two individuals took steps and conducted activities to initiate a terrorist attack," she told reporters. |
Alleged 'al-Qaeda-supported' plot against Via train thwarted
Is the RCMP trying to compete with the Just for Laughs festival now?
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Well, thank gawd there's no railroad tracks in Tahsis or we might all wind up in the pokey for trainwatching. I understand there are entire clubs of trainwatchers in the UK, they even keep notes on which trains they've seen and which ones they want to see.
Mind you, we do have a gravel road...I'll be very very careful and try to ensure I not watch it because I wouldn't want to in any way at all threaten either directly or indirectly the security of this great nation.
And what about those bloody birdwatchers? We've got a couple of them in Tahsis! So what are they REALLY up to? Imagine the havoc if they manage to train seagulls... there won't be a suit jacket safe anywhere in the country...
Anyone who wants to know about Domestic Terrorism has only to take a look at the sad conditions on many First Nations reserves...decades of terrorism evident in some of those places!
I guess some of it is Active and Acute and other kinds of it are Chronic and Passive... but it's terrorism...
"he was comin' down the track doin' ninety miles an hour when his whistle broke into a scream. He was found in the wreck with his hand on the throttle, he'd been scalded to death by the steam.
Ladies all, won't you come and take warnin', from this time on and learn Never speak harsh words to your true lovin' husband he may leave you and never return."
"listen to the jingle, the rumble and the roar as she glides along the headland, through the woods and by the shore, past the mighty reservation hear the lonesome hobo call, just listen to the rumble of the Wabash Cannonball"......... |
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Not just any old al-Qaeda but the official al-Qaeda Iran. 
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Pollyanna Tremonti was talking to some doltish expert this morning who said that immigrants have to leave the cultural practices of the old country back home when they move to Canada, as if not blowing things up every day is a uniquely Canadian trait.
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| Quote: | Police say they have arrested two men accused of conspiring to carry out an "al-Qaeda supported" attack targeting a Via passenger train in the Greater Toronto Area, following a cross-border investigation that involved Canadian and American law enforcement.
...RCMP officials said the two accused were plotting to derail a passenger train. Jennifer Strachan, chief superintendent of RCMP criminal operations in the province of Ontario, said the two suspects watched trains and railways in the Greater Toronto Area. There was a specific route targeted, not necessarily a specific train, Strachan said, although she declined to reveal the route.
"We are alleging that these two individuals took steps and conducted activities to initiate a terrorist attack," she told reporters. |
There was a case in France several years back where the authorities adopted a similar tone to what is being described here. There are different politics at play between the two incidents, but the presence of politics in the two scenarious overall is unmistakable. Agamben explored the French case in a letter to the French publication Liberation.
http://www.lacan.com/article/?page_id=55
| Quote: | | SDAT officers discovered “documents containing detailed information on railway transportation, including exact arrival and departure times of trains.” In plain French: an SNCF train schedule. But they also confiscated “climbing gear.” In simple French: a ladder, such as one might find in any country house. |
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| Oh holy Jeebus, I'VE got a ladder! Send me a cake with a file baked into it, please. It's the kind that stands-alone, you know, it sort'a folds open, you don't have to lean it against anything...it'll get you a good six, seven feet off the ground...I used to have another one, aluminum, but you had to have a wall or a tree or something to lean it against. It was extendable. You'd get up maybe thirteen feet...which I thought was a bit far to fall...anyway, my neighbour asked if he could borrow it and I said yes, because he's the one weed whacks my grass so I don't have to do it, and he's still got it; in fact he loaned it to another neighbour just last week so it's spreading, isn't it...nefariously perhaps...spreading out into the general population...soon the entire trailer park will be part and parcel of the ownership/harbouring of this aluminum ladder... I'm worried, I'm very worried, if they trace it back to me a file in a cake might not be enough... |
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Call me an "antikiltite," but I believe that with a name like "Cameron" you don't have a lot to worry about.
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