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al-Qa'bong
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 Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:51 pm Post subject: US Foreign Policy |
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| Quote: | Like a business that maintains two sets of records, one for the tax inspector and the other containing the truth, the United States has two different foreign policies. Its constitution, laws and treaty obligations prohibit torture, assassinations, and holding prisoners without trial. In reality there are secret prisons such as Guantánamo. Similarly, there are two sets of ethical standards in America's dealing with other countries. Enemies are held to the strictest standards. Allies get a pass. This double standard is the number-one cause of anti-Americanism in the world.
In yet another display that exposes US foreign policy on human rights as hypocritical and self-serving, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton traveled to Uzbekistan to establish closer ties with the Central Asian republic's president-for-life, Islam Karimov. Even as her State Department was ballyhooing the bloody conclusion of Gaddafi's 42-year reign as a victory for freedom and decency, the former First Lady was engaged in the cynical Cold War-style of one of the worst human rights abusers in the world.
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US double standard: Gaddafi bad, Karimov good
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Slumberjack
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| Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:33 pm Post subject: Re: US Foreign Policy |
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| al-Qa'bong wrote: | | Enemies are held to the strictest standards. Allies get a pass. |
It could simply be the case that boiling people to death is one of those practices, along with water boarding and forming naked human pyramids with beaten up prisoners, have somehow fallen of the list of criteria used to determine if a basis for friendly relations exists. You’d have to expect that in considering the vast array of techniques available to certain types of power, no such catalogue of objectionable acts could ever assert itself as being exhaustive.
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The Evil Twin
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| Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | In the human rights brief on Karimov, one major highlight is Central Asia's Tiananmen Square, the 2005 massacre of between 750 and 1250 peaceful demonstrators at Andijan, a southern town along the restive border with Kyrgyzstan, near the ancient Ferghana Valley. Karimov personally ordered Uzbek militia, Interior Ministry troops and regular army units to surround a square and gun down the protesters, then travelled to the site in order to witness the carnage. A few dozen people managed to escape, scrambling across a border crossing. Shocked Kyrgyz sentries, who had a view of the killing orgy, admitted the refugees. Uzbek troops chased the escapees into Kyrgyzstan, dragged them back and executed them on the Uzbek side of the bridge.
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I remember this....*NOW* that is, only after reading the link. Thing is though, I'd forgotten about it and it completely disappeared from the headlines of not only the MSM but also that of various leftist and progressive sites. A good example of how the TPTB shape our perceptions of who to direct our "two minute hate" fests at. It's pretty clear that had this atrocity been commited by an anti-American regime (say the Iranians, for example - though they haven't done anything approaching this level of brutality), we would be hit with the pictures, stories and testimonials of various survivors everyday and Clinton, Obama, Harper and other world class clowns would be posturing about bringing democracy, freedom...blah blah etc.
But here? Oh yeah, there was some minor nastiness back in '05....nothing to worry about. The victims were probably commies or Muslim fundies anyway so who cares. Now back to the true tyrants like that guy Chavez....what a nasty dictator. Gotta get rid of him.....
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Slumberjack
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:10 am Post subject: |
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Still keeping it real.
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Maestro
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Obama and Harper isolated at OAS meeting.
Latin America rebels against Obama
| Quote: | Unprecedented Latin American opposition to U.S. sanctions on Cuba left President Barack Obama isolated at a summit on Sunday and illustrated Washington's declining influence in a region being aggressively courted by China.
...Due to the hostile U.S. and Canadian line on communist-run Cuba, the heads of state failed to produce a final declaration as the summit fizzled out on Sunday afternoon.
...Argentine President Cristina Fernandez, who has insisted without success that Washington recognize its claim to the Falkland Islands controlled by Britain, was one of several presidents who left the summit well before its official closure.
...The divisive end to the summit added to strain on the U.S.-dominated system of hemispheric diplomacy that was built around the OAS but is struggling to adapt to changes in the region.
"I'm not sure the next summit will even be possible," said Carlos Gaviria, a Colombian politician and former presidential candidate.
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There's also the story of the secret service trying to bring local hookers into their hotel rooms. Way to go USA!
Not a mention of Harper despite the fact he did the best he could to parrot Obama. Oh well, maybe next time...
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al-Qa'bong
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| Quote: | Although there were widespread hopes for a rapprochement with Cuba under Obama when he took office, Washington has done little beyond ease some travel restrictions. It insists Cuba must first make changes, including the release of political prisoners.
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Political prisoners are being held in a Cuban detention camp? That's outrageous. We should adopt a set of sanctions against the offending country, including a travel ban.
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Maestro
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Secret Service says three employees to leave over Colombia scandal
| Quote: | Three U.S. Secret Service employees under investigation for alleged misconduct with prostitutes in Colombia before a trip by President Barack Obama are leaving their jobs, the agency said on Wednesday.
They were among 11 Secret Service agents and 10 U.S. military personnel who allegedly took as many as 21 women back to their hotel virtually on the eve of Obama's weekend trip to Cartagena for the Summit of the Americas.
...The Americans brought prostitutes to their beachfront hotel before Obama arrived for the summit, according to a local police source in Colombia. They were discovered when one woman complained about money, resulting in the hotel manager and local police getting involved.
...Although the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee requested the information, the panel was likely to have "very few if any" public hearings on the matter, Committee Chairman Darrell Issa, a California Republican, told reporters.
Issa noted that the Secret Service was already investigating and "they are likely to be more harsh to their own people than we would be."
Much of the information that the House panel might unearth should not be made public because of the nature of the Secret Service's work, he added.
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That's right, we wouldn't want the general population to find out whether those hookers were paid by the Secret Service johns, or whether the costs were 'expensed'.
What the fuck were they thinking???
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Slumberjack
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| al-Qa'bong wrote: | | Political prisoners are being held in a Cuban detention camp? That's outrageous. We should adopt a set of sanctions against the offending country, including a travel ban. |
Then our rulers would have to release all the dangerous political prisoners they're holding on our behalf, like Mandy Hiscocks. The safety of our own communities is at stake in this after all.
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al-Qa'bong
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| Quote: | | I ask this sincerely: what kind of country targets rescuers, funeral attendees, and people gathered to mourn? If a Hollywood film featured a villainous King ordering lethal attacks on rescuers, funerals and mourners — those medically attending to or grieving his initial victims — any decent audience member would, by design, seethe with contempt for such an inhumane tyrant. But this is the standard policy and practice under President Obama and it continues through today. Recall the outrage that was sparked when WikiLeaks released its Collateral Murder video showing a U.S. Apache helicopter during the Bush era firing on unarmed rescuers, who had arrived to retrieve the initial victims who had been shot and were laying wounded on the ground. That tactic continues under President Obama, although it is now expanded to include the targeting of grieving rituals. |
U.S. again bombs mourners
The Obama policy of attacking rescuers and grieving rituals continues this weekend in Pakistan
By Glenn Greenwald
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Maestro
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And in this election year in the USA, voters who reject presidential assassination orders and drone bombings would vote for...?
Nobody, I guess. So much for democracy.
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Slumberjack
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This is part of the reason why I've come to view politics as we know it for a battle of supremacy between rival gangs of criminal thugs. And when they show up at your door for a shake down during elections, don't bother calling the police because they're in on the entire racket. When we queue up at the voting stations, instead of delivering a severed foot to the political order, we instead sacrifice body and soul in their entirety.
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Yes they've propped-up the mafia in various countries since WW II. And the CIA is the biggest dope delivery service since British East India Company pirates roamed the seven seas. Capitalism is all about monopolizing markets, for sure, for sure.
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