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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've looked for on-line images of such National Lampoon comics as "The Appletons," "Politenessman" and "Timberland Tales," but have found very little.

There's a parody of Sgt. Rock/Nick Fury in the 1978 "Toronto" issue that's hilarious. I haven't found it on-line either.


A few years ago, a lot of the old National Lampoon issues were available online on btjunkie, Megaupload and Filesonic, but we all know what happened to those three sites.


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If everyone wants to pitch in and buy me a scanner, I could rip my 100+ copies going back to Issue #1. Assuming they haven't been consumed by basement mildew.


Hey! This looks like an offer to illegally share copyrighted works in exchange for a scanner. Do you want to join Kim Dotcom on the US DOJ's hitlist, Magoo? Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm bummed out that I once had a copy of every National Lampoon from August '78 to April '83...but I left them in a box back on the farm after we moved out.

Before that, I had most of the issues of Mad magazine from 1969 to 1975. I don't have any more of them either.

I remember the back page of one issue that had Lady Liberty stuck between Nixon and McGovern, weeping. She'd be slitting her wrists today.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've looked for on-line images of such National Lampoon comics as "The Appletons," "Politenessman" and "Timberland Tales," but have found very little.



Here is a website dedicated to BK Taylor, with stuff from Timberland and Appletons. Kinda hard to see, though.

I wasn't aware that Taylor(or ANYONE with an artistic reputation) had worked for Sick Magazine, which was definitely the bottom-of-the-heap as far as the Mad wannabes went. Even more pathetic than Crazy.
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I guess it's the pipe, or the clean-cut look, but Bob Dobbs always made me think of Norm Appleton.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I guess it's the pipe, or the clean-cut look, but Bob Dobbs always made me think of Norm Appleton.


Well, I guess they're both supposed to be an iconic image of "50s dad". So that might explain the similarities(or maybe not, the images ARE pretty close, even allowing for archetypal resemblances).

But apparently that similarity had been noted by the church itself. A satirical post from one of their newsgroups...

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CLEVELAND, OHIO and AUSTIN, TEXAS (Reuters) - It appears that Time
> Magazine's Greatest Fraud of the 20th Century really is just that.
> Only this time, the fraud comes in the form of an ongoing copyright
> violation that sources say "has gone on long enough."
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> The clean-cut, pipe-smoking J.R. "Bob" Dobbs icon used by the Austin,
> Texas-based Church of the Subgenius to help promote their doomsday
> cult was allegedly inspired by the clean-cut, pipe-smoking Norm
> Appleton from the mid-70's National Lampoon magazine comic strip, "The
> Appletons". Or so say the filers of this week's legal actions in the
> state of New York against "Bob" and his Church.


Personally, I've always found the Subgenius thing vaguely annoying. It's like one of those junior-high in-jokes, where everyone goes around repeating some catch-phrase, but doesn't tell you why they're doing it. The mere fact that it's an in-joke is enough to justify it as funny.

Granted, I've never read a lot of the SubGenius stuff in-depth. Maybe they're humour did get a little more concrete than just putting Bob's picture everywhere and spouting his slogans, but any substance certainly wasn't on the surface.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And a bit late here, but since it's the topic of the thread, Romney won Michigan and Arizona.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's pretty clear now that - barring a major scandal or huge mis-step - Romney is going to be the GOP candidate. Gingrich has too much baggage, Xtian Fundie Santorum is too polarizing and Ron Paul is on the fringes of the modern neo-con and theo-con dominated GOP.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al Jazeera showed Santorum speaking at the AIPAC conference, where he said Iran isn't run by rational leaders.

Yes, the guy who, with a straight face, said that Satan is attacking the USA accused someone else of irrationality.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

al-Qa'bong wrote:

Yes, the guy who, with a straight face, said that Satan is attacking the USA accused someone else of irrationality.


Rick Santorum is uniquely qualified to speak about irrational leadership.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Rick Santorum is uniquely qualified to speak aboutdemonstrate irrational "leadership."
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have grown to respect views of TheBlackCommentator; and, this piece seems to merit more attention.

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Here's something you probably didn't read in your local newspaper. It wasn't in the New York Times or the Washington Post. Blogging from the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) conference in Washington, Chris McGreal of the British Guardian wrote: "Ahead of the speeches there has been a foreign policy discussion panel. Among the speakers was Liz Cheney, a former State Department official and daughter of George W. Bush's vice president. There was widespread applause for her attacks on Barack Obama including when she said the president is more interested in `containing Israel' by discouraging it from attacking Iran than blocking Tehran from developing a nuclear bomb. There was also applause when she said there was no president who had done more to `undermine and delegitimize' Israel. There were loud cheers when she predicted that the next AIPAC conference will be held under a new US president."

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

al-Qa'bong wrote:
Yes, the guy who, with a straight face, said that Satan is attacking the USA....


Even the Iranians wouldn't agree with that. They'd have to suspect why Satan would attack himself.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reports of an attack by Satan on the US are greatly exaggerated. Really it's not much more than a minor outbreak of Snookie.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Rick Santorum won Kansas on Saturday in the arduous race for the Republican presidential nomination, easily disposing of his rivals in a state where two of them didn't bother to compete.

Final returns in Kansas showed Santorum, a staunch social conservative and former Pennsylvania senator, had 51 per cent of the vote in the Kansas caucuses. Mitt Romney, the current delegate leader and perceived front-runner, came in second with 21 per cent while Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul duked it out for third place.



No, really; what's the matter with Kansas?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ron Paul supporters finally get the Black Helicopters down on them!

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Police and organizers shut down proceedings at one of Missouri’s largest caucuses today, as Ron Paul supporters feuded with local GOP leaders.

“It’s like the Hatfields and the McCoys around here,” St. Charles County’s former GOP chairman told ABC News, after police arrived on-scene with a helicopter and removed Paul backers.

In St. Charles, an exurb of St. Louis and one of the state’s largest GOP counties, Paul supporters sought to elect their own chairman and adopt their own rules when proceedings opened — both of which are part of standard caucus rules and procedure. But as they argued with the caucus chair, Paul supporters held video cameras — against caucus rules, according to a GOP official who was there — and things became contentious.



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take a peek at the 'percentage from small individual contributions':

http://www.livescience.com/19158-presidential-candidates-fundraisin...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also take a look at the fact that Obama has raised more than twice the total of all Republican candidates.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Also take a look at the fact that Obama has raised more than twice the total of all Republican candidates.

I see more than twice Romney's and also more than the total for major Republican candidates but not anywhere near your 'twice all'.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, of course. My error. Obama has raised more than the others put together, but, as you have pointed out, not twice as much. Embarassed


Thanks for pointing that out.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's also not entirely a fair comparison. Obama is already the Democratic nominee, and donations to him are donations to a presidential campaign. Each of the Republicans is still only running for the nomination and donations to them are in the context of an internal contest, not an election against the other party.
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That is also true, but some of the money that is spent gaining the nomination is lost to the actual campaign. Meanwhile, all of what Obama collects is all going to the campaign.

Whoever gains the Republican nomination has a lot of ground to make up.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some, certainly, but that's neither the entire or near-entire fund that's going to be amassed behind the successful candidate. That candidate will have a lot of ground to make up, for sure, but while Obama's going to go into September with a very large number of supporters already having been tapped for the reelection fund (that >$64M that's already come from small donors is at least a few hundred thousand donors) the successful candidate's going to have a far more fresh field of donors to mine for donations.

By no means am I saying Obama's actually at a disadvantage, but neither does a snapshot of the totals at this time present an accurate view of how those sides are going to compare in November.
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...By no means am I saying Obama's actually at a disadvantage, but neither does a snapshot of the totals at this time present an accurate view of how those sides are going to compare in November.

1) Obama is going to need every penny to adequately motivate citizens to register as well as vote for him, not to mention others of his political party.
2) the conservative super-PACs have been running distorting attack ads pairing him with Democratic congress-critters for months already and it seems lately to have intensified. 3) while in a usually competitive bi-state market, I haven't seen the Democrats and allies field one-tenth, even 1 for 20, in response.
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I honestly don't think Obama has to worry about money. He has done precisely what big capital wanted, and they will show their appreciatin. When the time comes, he'll have enormous resources.

Bear in mind that Obama has already shown himself to be a master fund raiser. I also think the effect of the Super PAC's is overestimated. One of the things those boys are going to find out is that sniping from the sidelines is very, very expensive, and doesn't necessarily buy any votes.

Stability is the thing most desired by capital. They have that with Obama, and are not going to upset the applecart unless he starts actually doing something for the working class (what's left of it).

In the meantime, what percentage of the black vote do you think will go Republican? They amount to roughly 12.5% of the US population (approx 38 million), but they will vote Obama 100%.
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I honestly don't think Obama has to worry about money. He has done precisely what big capital wanted, and they will show their appreciatin. When the time comes, he'll have enormous resources.

Bear in mind that Obama has already shown himself to be a master fund raiser. I also think the effect of the Super PAC's is overestimated. One of the things those boys are going to find out is that sniping from the sidelines is very, very expensive, and doesn't necessarily buy any votes.

Stability is the thing most desired by capital. They have that with Obama, and are not going to upset the applecart unless he starts actually doing something for the working class (what's left of it).


Agreed, also Obama showed in 2008 that he's a good very campaigner and also a very good public speaker. I don't foresee him having too much problem in either fundraising or campaigning. I do foresee only one potential problem for Obama and that brings us to the last part of your comment:


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In the meantime, what percentage of the black vote do you think will go Republican? They amount to roughly 12.5% of the US population (approx 38 million), but they will vote Obama 100%.


No doubt he'll get well over 90% of the black vote (as have even white Democrats over the last few decades ever since Nixon and especially Reagan) or I should say more specifically and importantly Obama will get 90% + of those blacks who register and show up to vote. This is very important because a lot of those first time voters who were so enthusiastic about Obama in 2008 (a lot of inner city blacks, young people, immigrants and others who registered and took part in the US process for the first time) may not be so enthusiastic about him this time (actually their apathy towards Obama has a lot to do with the reasons Wall Street and Big Business are so happy with him. IOW he took care of the moneyed group and basically ignored those who put him over MacCain last time ). While I highly doubt they'll be voting GOP (for obvious reasons), they might just stay home. If enough do this, Obama will have a very tough time in tight races and "swing states" (where a few percentage swing either way are so important).

I still think Obama can do it, but he needs his base to turn out and once again fall for the lies and bullshit vote for "hope and change".
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I still think Obama can do it, but he needs his base to turn out and once again fall for the lies and bullshit vote for "hope and change".


If the general lack of enthusiasm carries across both blocs of support, he can do it. Luckily for him there's not too many genuine happy dances breaking out in the Rethuglican camp either, and it's highly unlikely at this point they'll drain a swamp somewhere and hose off a presentable star power candidate from out of the rarified methane - where their kinda people usually originate from - with a view to turning the convention on it's head. Obama's hope resides in the pathetic apathy of the other side, because you'd have to think sure as shit by now that no one in their right mind would be fool enough to draw from his empty well again. Which mainly leaves him with the hopelessly delusional and the desperate. It'll likely be just enough.
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IMHO, y'all have over-simplified the USAn 2012 Federal elections. Might be prudient to re-read my previous points.

OTT: chew on citizenry versus politicians, particularly conservative ideologes?

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As the economy slowly recovers from a crippling recession and politicians sound alarms about mounting deficits, the U.S. government is struggling with tough choices about which programs to trim and which to invest in.

An annual Harris Interactive poll set out to explore public opinion on the federal budget by asking people whether they would favor or oppose cutting spending in particular areas. The results reveal what really matters to the American people—and their pocketbooks.

http://awesome.good.is/transparency/web/1203/federal-budget/flat.ht...
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IMHO, y'all have over-simplified the USAn 2012 Federal elections.


Yeah, but consider the source material we're having to work with.
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If there had been a genuine chance of a Republican win in the next presidential election, some candidate of stature would have appeared. I think most 'serious' candidates decided to wait four years for an election in which there is no incumbent.

Romney, who is the most likely candidate, can't appeal to the hard right in his party, nor the religious right. It will be very difficult for him to assemble the resources necessary to make a serious run at the presidency. Four years down the road Obama will be gone, a second black candidate is unlikely in the extreme (although there could be a black vice-presidential candidate), and who knows what shape the economy will be in. Far safer for a real candidate to sit this one out.

Meanwhile, the money Obama has thrown at the economy is starting to stick. Watch for employment to rise over the next months. At the same time, the usual Republican rants (family values, soft on terrorism, etc.) sure don't apply to Obama. After all, he's the guy who killed the biggest terrorist of them all.

If the Republicans had principles, they could get at him for being the president who justifies murdering of US citizens, who refers to secret panels as 'due process', who sanctions terrorist acts around the world, who appears to have no regard for the US constitution at all. But of course Republicans are fully onside with those policies.

Even the right wing pundits have given up on this race, and the group of Republican clowns it has attracted. Their effort now is to try and gain the Senate. Unfortunately for them, allowing the 'Tea Party' into the Republican tent has laden them with a lot of un-electable candidates.

No election is a sure thing, and strange things can happen (note NDP huge win in Quebec), but this time out I don't see than happening.
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Maestro, voter turn-out will be important as well as the results in legislature contests -- some things that I emphasized before. And, impacts of surprises might be unexpected.
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Considering their options, every US voter will make the wrong choice.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

al-Qa'bong wrote:
Considering their options, every US voter will make the wrong choice.


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...voter turn-out will be important as well as the results in legislature contests...


Of course turnout is always important. Turnout is a function of the candidates organization, which is more or less a function of the amount of money they have.

I really don't think Obama is going to have a turnout problem. There can be surprises, but the fact is that it will take a surprise of some kind to alter the outcome of this election.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't heard too much homophobia from Rick Santorum lately, but I just knew it was a matter of time:

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LA CROSSE, Wis. — If you’re Rick Santorum, making a crack about a pink bowling ball is sure to draw some unwanted attention.

Sure enough, after making such a comment to a young man at a bowling alley here on Wednesday, that is exactly what happened.

During a campaign stop with a group of young Republicans, Mr. Santorum took about 20 minutes for a round of bowling. As one of the young men reached for a pink ball — one that some of the women used — Mr. Santorum ribbed him.

“You’re not gonna use the pink ball,” Mr. Santorum said. “We’re not gonna let you do that. Not on camera.” The remark was posted to Twitter by a Reuters reporter and soon ricocheted around the Web.

It didn’t take long for the Human Rights Campaign, a gay rights group, to pounce. It issued a statement on Wednesday calling Mr. Santorum’s remark “ignorant.”


http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/29/after-santorum-jokes-...

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“This is another example of Rick Santorum intentionally making ignorant statements that have a real impact on LGBT people,” said HRC Vice President of Communications Fred Sainz. “Whether he’s comparing our marriages to inanimate objects, saying our children would be better off with a parent in prison as opposed to two loving same-sex parents, or calling open military service a ‘tragic social experiment;’ he’s proven that he thinks LGBT people are second-class citizens not worthy of dignity or respect. In this case, he’s advancing tired gender norms by implying a boy should be ashamed or embarrassed to use a certain color bowling ball.”

Santorum’s anti-LGBT record speaks for itself: in addition to his frequent and vitriolic remarks about issues like marriage equality or LGBT families, he consistently voted against workplace protections while serving in the U.S. Senate, and was an early and vocal supporter of the discriminatory Defense of Marriage Act.

“Kids have enough to worry about,” added Sainz. “They don’t need Rick Santorum telling them that using a pink bowling ball is a bad thing.”


http://www.hrc.org/press-releases/entry/rick-santorum-tells-boy-not...

BTW, Santorum was spouting off a few months ago about how he opposes Islam and Muslims because they're "homophobic" (see upthread, a few pages back). Alrighty then. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Santorum is such an odious fuck that it is hard to tell whether he was being sexist or being homophobic. Or maybe a bit of one and a soupcon of the other.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Santorum is such an odious fuck that it is hard to tell whether he was being sexist or being homophobic. Or maybe a bit of one and a soupcon of the other.


I think it's both as well. Sexism and homophobia are deeply linked (and feed off each other) and Santorum has proven to be both during his legislative career.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that it matters much either way, but my guess is that Santorum wasn't being homophobic, but was instead mocking the guy for doing something effeminate.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not that it matters much either way, but my guess is that Santorum wasn't being homophobic, but was instead mocking the guy for doing something effeminate.


And that this is just one issue on which he's widely misunderstood.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the "OMFG did she really say that? did she??" department comes Ann Romney with this comment about her husband: Just Unzip Him And You'll See My Husband Isn't Stiff

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GREEN BAY, Wis. – Ann Romney defended her husband’s sense of humor today during a radio interview, explaining that if people think the candidate seems too stiff at times as the host suggested, she thinks “we better unzip him and let the real Mitt Romney out.”
Ann Romney’s remarks came during an interview with Baltimore radio station WBAL, during which the host asked her, “And one of the things, Ann Romney, that folks talk about with your husband, Mitt Romney, and I’ve seen him in casual conversation-He comes off very smooth and okay. But sometimes he comes off stiff. Do you have to fight back some criticism, like ‘My husband isn’t stiff, OK?’”
Laughing, Ann Romney responded, “Well, you know, I guess we better unzip him and let the real Mitt Romney out because he is not!”


Okay, then.... ROTFL
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

McCain to Santorum: Time for 'graceful exit'

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WASHINGTON (AP) — Sen. John McCain says Rick Santorum should recognize "it's time for a graceful exit" from the Republican presidential campaign in the wake of Mitt Romney's sweep of primaries in Wisconsin, Maryland and the District of Columbia.

McCain also tells "CBS This Morning" there's a strong field of Republicans who could be the vice presidential candidate.

When asked to suggest some names Wednesday, the Arizona Republican said, "I think it should be Sarah Palin." But when pressed to elaborate, he said "I think we have some very qualified candidates," citing Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida and Govs. Mitch Daniels of Indiana, Chris Christie of New Jersey and Bobby Jindal of Louisiana.


Agree with him that Romney has the nomination pretty well wrapped up....but McCain, seriously...Sarah Palin for VP again? Is McCain drunk? Or is he secretly working for Obama's campaign? ROTFL
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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McCain to Santorum: Time for 'graceful exit'

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WASHINGTON (AP) — Sen. John McCain says Rick Santorum should recognize "it's time for a graceful exit" from the Republican presidential campaign in the wake of Mitt Romney's sweep of primaries in Wisconsin, Maryland and the District of Columbia.

McCain also tells "CBS This Morning" there's a strong field of Republicans who could be the vice presidential candidate.

When asked to suggest some names Wednesday, the Arizona Republican said, "I think it should be Sarah Palin." But when pressed to elaborate, he said "I think we have some very qualified candidates," citing Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida and Govs. Mitch Daniels of Indiana, Chris Christie of New Jersey and Bobby Jindal of Louisiana.


Agree with him that Romney has the nomination pretty well wrapped up....but McCain, seriously...Sarah Palin for VP again? Is McCain drunk? Or is he secretly working for Obama's campaign? ROTFL


Well, I guess if he were to omit Palin from his list of potentials, he would be implicity admitting that she's not qualified for the position. Essenatially saying "Well, I sure made a big mistake picking her in 2008".

Not that it would really matter, since Palin is unlikely to be selected anyway, even with his endorsement. Still, you have to maintain a facade of standing by your choices.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, I guess if he were to omit Palin from his list of potentials, he would be implicity admitting that she's not qualified for the position. Essenatially saying "Well, I sure made a big mistake picking her in 2008".

Not that it would really matter, since Palin is unlikely to be selected anyway, even with his endorsement. Still, you have to maintain a facade of standing by your choices.


Yeah, I never thought of it this way but you're right.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Santorum is gone...Romney is the GOP candidate unless there's some weird thing at the convention.

Santorum suspends presidential bid

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Rick Santorum is suspending his campaign for the U.S. Republican presidential nomination, clearing a path for Mitt Romney to become the party's nominee.

The former Pennsylvania senator, who saw his profile and support for his shoestring-budget campaign surge in recent months to become Romney's main challenger, made the announcement Tuesday in his home state of Pennsylvania. It was two weeks before the GOP presidential primary there.

"While this presidential race is over for me and we will suspend our campaign effective today, we are not done fighting,"...

...With Santorum's departure, Romney, a former Massachusetts governor and successful CEO, is all but certain to secure the Republican nomination and face Obama in November's presidential election.

He has a massive delegate lead over his two remaining rivals, Texas congressman Ron Paul and former House of Representatives speaker Newt Gingrich.

Paul and Gingrich have so far resisted growing calls for them to drop out of the race, with Gingrich again vowing Monday he would stay in the Republican race all the way to the national convention in August in Tampa.


Well, that's that, then. In a race where the Tea Party movement was going to take the GOP on a wild ride to the right, the least Tea Party candidate of them all is in.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even though he says otherwise, I think Gingrich will drop out before the convention. Ron Paul will stay until the end, if only to prove a point.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of Gingrich's big supporters was Sheldon Adelson, who now appears to be shifting to Romney:

Sheldon Adelson...says Newt Gingrich is ‘at the end of his line’

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Sheldon Adelson, the billionaire Las Vegas casino mogul who has played a prime role in funding Newt Gingrich’s presidential ambitions, now thinks the former House speaker may be “at the end of his line” in the race for the GOP nod.

...“It appears as though he’s at the end of his line,” Adelson said of Gingrich. “Because, I mean, mathematically, he can’t get anywhere near the numbers, and it’s unlikely to be a brokered convention.”

...The statement by Adelson is the latest sign of Gingrich’s dire straits in the Republican nominating contest. Earlier this week, news broke that Gingrich was dismissing one-third of his campaign staff and scaling back his schedule on the trail. The candidate has also begun charging $50 to supporters who wish to take a photo with him at events.

...News of Adelson’s remarks follows a report that the casino mogul met privately last week with prominent Romney supporters and may be poised to contribute to a super PAC backing the former Massachusetts governor.


Iiieee, $50 bucks for a pic with Gingrich? I think I'd rather pay someone to hit me in the head with a hammer.

In any case, it's interesting that despite the right-winig rhetoric and Tea Party activism, the GOP couldn't find enough support to keep a single one of those guys in the race.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rachel Maddow has been saying for a while now that Adelson has to have been well aware that Gingrich didn't have a chance, and the only explanation that makes sense for him continuing to spend piles of money to keep Gingrich's campaign going is to split the anti-Romney vote from Santorum to help Romney. That reading of he situation fits pretty neatly with Adelson pulling the plug on Gingrich the moment Santorum called it quits.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maestro...my dear friend...no need to pay me...for you, I'll volunteer time, energy, and even the hammer....
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anne cameron wrote:
Maestro...my dear friend...no need to pay me...for you, I'll volunteer time, energy, and even the hammer....


Well, I suppose if I was going to have someone hit me in the head with a hammer, I'd do well to come to you. After all, that way we keep it in the family, and of course there's the free thing as well...on second thought, maybe I'll turn this around and ask Newt for $50 (USD, of course) to have his picture taken with me...no, I'd think I'd better get more than that. Tell you what Newt, for $500 I'll be in a picture with you provided you photoshop me out of it afterwards. 'Course you gotta pay my air fare, meals, accomodation, etc., what's that? Adelson left you high and dry? Well, maybe next election...
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They came upon Lauber, tackled him and pinned him to the ground. As Lauber, his eyes filling with tears, screamed for help, Romney repeatedly clipped his hair with a pair of scissors.

It is hard to forget that scene after reading it; how easy could it be after living it? For the five former students who spoke to the Post’s Jason Horowitz and Julie Tate—four of them allowing their names to be used—it seems to have impossible, becoming the sort of indelible, awful wrong that haunts both sides.

...The one person who says he has not thought about it a lot is Mitt Romney. His campaign told the Post, “The stories of fifty years ago seem exaggerated and off base and Governor Romney has no memory of participating in these incidents.” Thursday morning, as it became clear that this was no kind of answer—that the Post had this story down, with the accounts of the witnesses, who were members of both parties and had grown into a range of professions—Romney offered a blanket apology for anything that might have slipped his mind:

Back in high school, I did some dumb things, and if anybody was hurt by that or offended, obviously, I apologize for that… I participated in a lot of high jinks and pranks during high school, and some might have gone too far, and for that I apologize.

Does he count this as high jinks or a prank?


Yeah, gosh, that Romney is a sociopath all right, as are many of his station, otherwise they wouldn't be where they are. Luckily there's that Obama fellah in the mix.

Oh wait, from the comments section following that article:

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...those Democrats, on the other hand, are far more empathic by comparison. Just take Obama, for example: he said on Tv last week that he weeps every night for the tens of thousands of men, women, and children he has murdered through his drone strikes and illegal invasions of 5 different countries.

Er, wait......no he didn't.......he jokes about using drones on boys who hit on his daughter. Oops...


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Romney can’t even be mean with any honesty. Even when he’s pandering to viciousness, ignorance and racism, it comes across like a scaly calculation. A guy who feels like he has to take a dump on the N.A.A.C.P. in Houston in order to connect with frustrated white yahoos everywhere else is a guy who has absolutely no social instincts at all. Someone like Jesse Helms at least had a genuine emotional connection with his crazy-mean-stupid audiences. But Mitt Romney has to think his way to the lowest common denominator, which is somehow so much worse.

Most presidents have something under the hood – wit, warmth, approachability, something. Even the most liberal football fan could enjoy watching an NFL game with George Bush. And even a Klansman probably would have found some of LBJ’s jokes funny. The biggest office in the world requires someone who buzzes with enough personality to fill the job, and most of them have it.

But Romney doesn’t buzz with anything. His vision of humanity is just a million tons of meat floating around in a sea of base calculations. He’s like a teenager who stays up all night thinking of a way to impress the prom queen, and what he comes up with is kicking a kid in a wheelchair. Instincts like those are probably what made him a great leveraged buyout specialist, but in a public figure?


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