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voice of the damned Fulltime enMasse Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:17 am Post subject: Emancipation Day |
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Dan Gardner of the Ottawa Citizen argues that the August 1st civic holiday should be re-named Emancipation Day, after August 1st 1837, the day slavery was abolished throughout the British Empire.
| Quote: | For generations, African-Canadians also celebrated Emancipation Day. But the memory faded in recent decades. The Ontario Black History Society is working to change that.
"We were able to get, first Toronto, then various cities, including the City of Ottawa, to recognize Emancipation Day," notes the society's president, Rosemary Sadlier. In 2008, a private member's bill passed the Ontario legislature and the generic August 1 holiday became Emancipation Day. Not that the government bothered to tell anyone, which is why the reader has almost certainly never heard of this before.
It's also disappointing - and depressingly Canadian - that the holiday continues to go by a patchwork of other names across the country, most of which are devoid of even the slightest meaning. At the federal level, Conservative MP Deepak Obhrai introduced a private member's bill to mark Emancipation Day in 2001 but it didn't receive unanimous support and that was the end of it.
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I have to say, this is something I could probably get behind. Certainly, Gardner is correct about the lame-o nomenclature of the holiday throughout Canada. |
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al-Qa'bong Fulltime enMasse Member

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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:24 am Post subject: |
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Well, "Emancipation Day" certainly addresses 21st-century white liberal politically-correct guilt, but wouldn't a name with more of a Canadian resonance, such as "Louis Riel Day," "Laura Secord Day" or "Paul Henderson Day" carry more emotional weight with Canadians? _________________ "The purpose of government is to protect the weak from the powerful" Hammurabi
"We can't all be Sam the Sham; some of us have to be Pharoahs" Larry, brother of Darrel, and his other brother Daryl |
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al-Qa'bong Fulltime enMasse Member

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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:25 am Post subject: |
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What about "Decoration Day"? _________________ "The purpose of government is to protect the weak from the powerful" Hammurabi
"We can't all be Sam the Sham; some of us have to be Pharoahs" Larry, brother of Darrel, and his other brother Daryl |
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voice of the damned Fulltime enMasse Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Well, "Emancipation Day" certainly addresses 21st-century white liberal politically-correct guilt, but wouldn't a name with more of a Canadian resonance, such as "Louis Riel Day," "Laura Secord Day" or "Paul Henderson Day" carry more emotional weight with Canadians?
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Well, I guess they're looking for something specifically connected to August 1st.
The history of slavery in British North America is somewhat sketchy. According to wiki, it had been made virtually illegal by various regulations, but still remained technically lawful. It's not clear how many slaves, if any, there were in the Canada at the time of the Emancipation Act.
If there were ANY slaves in Canada at the time, then you could probably make a case for the legislation being relevant to Canada.
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anne cameron Fulltime enMasse Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Didn't it used to be "August bank holiday"? |
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Rufus Polson Purple Library Guy
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| I wouldn't mind a holiday from banks. |
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al-Qa'bong Fulltime enMasse Member

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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, a holiday to celebrate being freed from banks; let's call it "Emancipation Day." _________________ "The purpose of government is to protect the weak from the powerful" Hammurabi
"We can't all be Sam the Sham; some of us have to be Pharoahs" Larry, brother of Darrel, and his other brother Daryl |
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Tehanu More or less, more or less

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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| voice of the damned wrote: | | If there were ANY slaves in Canada at the time, then you could probably make a case for the legislation being relevant to Canada. |
There almost certainly were slaves in Canada at the time, although not many (an estimate below says that there were fewer than 50).
And while I agree about this initiative being helpful in assuaging white liberal guilt, I think far too many people forget that Canada did indeed have slavery. We may have learned a little bit about the Underground Railway in school, enough to feel complacent, but let's not forget that this country was plenty complicit. Seems that the main impediment to slavery really taking off has much less to do with a sense of justice and human dignity, and more to do with economic conditions. As one might expect.
Black History in Canada.
| Quote: | | Slavery in Canada remained virtually nonexistent, due to a short growing season and the economic impracticality of housing and feeding idle slaves over the winter months. Most of the slaves were “body” or family servants for wealthy officials or for families living in urban areas. Unlike the large plantations in the South, where a large number of slaves were owned, Canadian households tended to have one slave only or, at the most, a very small number. Slaves usually served the same family during their lifetime. Very few slaves were in the Owen Sound area during the eighteenth century; most tended to be south, in the Niagara area. The majority of slaves in Canada originated from either the French West Indies or the colonies of British North America. Of the total brought to Canada, about 40% were female and 60% male. |
Black History Canada - Timeline 1800-1900:
| Quote: | 28 August 1833: British Parliament Abolishes Slavery
On 28 August 1833, slavery was abolished throughout the British colonies by an Imperial Act which became effective 1 August 1834. The act formally freed nearly 800,000 slaves but there were probably fewer than 50 slaves in British North America by that time. |
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TS. Delicious schadenfreude

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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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In my first year law school course on contracts, we had a lecture on slavery contracts and looking at the history of slavery in Nova Scotia through contracts for the purchase and sale of slaves. I think for a lot of people it was a real eye-opener. _________________ "Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear." - Thomas Jefferson |
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Timebandit Fulltime enMasse Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| And long after the slavery of people of colour had ended, Canada continued to import indentured child servants (a form of slavery) from the UK, paying about $2 a head through the federal Department of Agriculture to the various "charity" homes who "sheltered" them. |
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voice of the damned Fulltime enMasse Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:56 am Post subject: |
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CBC has a historical timeline of slavery in Canada.
And, while the CBC doesn't mention it(probably because it's not directly related to slavery in Canada), Canada's role in the US Civil War makes for interesting history. |
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Slumberjack Fulltime enMasse Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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Visibility I believe should be the key motivator behind any such initiative to set aside a day of observance, or to rename an existing day of observance such as Victoria Day or the August Civic Holiday. The motivation should come from decedents of the historically affected people, who are in fact the very same affected communities today. It's quite clear that many Canadians are blissfully ignorant when it comes to the history of oppression in this country. The legacy of racially based ignorance and marginalization here in Nova Scotia for example is an unknown void to many people. The name Viola Desmond likely wouldn't register much beyond a blank stare in the consciousness of the average citizen in these parts. _________________ At its zero-level, ideology could thus be understood as a system of beliefs which enable us to sustain our position within liberal-democratic capitalism. |
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Sibjyn Fulltime enMasse Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| We should maybe wait until there's true emancipation in the country before we pat ourselves on the back and declare a holiday in honour of our victory in the fight against racism and colonialism. |
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The Evil Twin Stoned Immaculate

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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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While I did originally think VOTD's idea was interesting, we have to consider the ideological worldview of the current government and how they may use such a day to score cheap political points. For those who think Harper wouldn't stoop so low, look what he has done with the term "anti-Semitism". Consider also his well documented (especially by the Globe's Simpson and Star's Siddiqui) attempts to attract certain ethnic and religious groups (Christian conservatives, Hindus, Jews, Chinese etc.) at the expense of others (Arabs, Pakistanis, Iranians, Turks - seeing a pattern here?). I'm pretty sure many of you (especially those of you familiar with the names Mark Steyn, Robert Spencer or Geert Wilders) can see where I'm going with this.
So let's say, Harper and co. proclaim an "Emancipation Day", what will they use it to do? Will it be:
1) Use it to discuss and educate on historical slavery in the Christian world directed at Africans, Native Americans (North and South), Australian and Tasmanian aboriginals. Will Harper and co. discuss Timebandit's point about the indentured servitude of white Europeans? What about thralls and serfs? Will Harper, Kenny and Baird discuss the disgusting human sex traffickers operating in Russia, Eastern Europe and Israel that often force women and children into the sex trade?
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2) Will Harper's crowd use this to bash Sudan, Mauritania, the Gulf Arabs and Pakistan (of course while ignoring that the type of indentured labour widespread in Pakistan is also practiced by Hindus in India and Buddhists in Sri Lanka)? I think anyone familiar with modern neo-conservative thought (an oxymoron I know) realizes what option Harper's team will use to score cheap points and exploit genuine tragedies. _________________ I can't support bike lanes. Roads are built for buses, cars, and trucks. My heart bleeds when someone gets killed, but it's their own fault at the end of the day. - Assclown Rob Ford |
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bshmr Fulltime enMasse Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:39 am Post subject: |
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A BBC Magazine piece mix of informative and opinion on an exhibit in Paris. I would like to see it here (world-wide tour).
Human zoos: When real people were exhibits
By Hugh Schofield BBC News, Paris; 27 December 2011 Last updated at 04:10 ET
| Quote: | | An exhibition in Paris looks at the history of so-called human zoos, that put inhabitants from foreign lands, mostly African countries, on display as article of curiosity. |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16295827 |
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anne cameron Fulltime enMasse Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:59 am Post subject: |
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Dr. Bernardo's "street arabs", and the "home children" were brought by the hundreds to Canada and placed with families, mainly farmers, to be a source of cheap labour. There are sadly many stories of kids sleeping in the hayloft of the barn, fed left-overs, beaten, treated miserably by these good Christian folk... sexual abuse was common, and if the girls got pregnant it was just more proof, if more was needed, of how sinful and "less than" they were.
But we don't deal with any part of it. There is SO much in this country we just don't deal with, as if pretending it never happened will undo the damage caused.
My New Years gift to all of you is that I will not cut loose with a rant against that son of a bun Harpoon who is turning this nation into an unrecognizeable mess.
Have a good Hagmenai, and lang may your lum reek wi' ither folks' coal... |
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Timebandit Fulltime enMasse Member
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| Barnardos was the biggest and most prominent of the charities to bring over British Home Children, but the Anglican and catholic churches also had charities and there was Middlemore Homes and Quarriers (out of Scotland). I knew one BHC who sued Barnardos and was paid out, with a gag order included. I've always thought he should have included the government of Canada in the suit. |
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6079_Smith_W Fulltime enMasse Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| al-Qa'bong wrote: | | Well, "Emancipation Day" certainly addresses 21st-century white liberal politically-correct guilt, but wouldn't a name with more of a Canadian resonance, such as "Louis Riel Day," "Laura Secord Day" or "Paul Henderson Day" carry more emotional weight with Canadians? |
Saskatchewan's "Family Day" is "Louis Riel Day" in Manitoba. |
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