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elmateo
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Stay the course, things are improving, the surge is working, etc. etc. Canada is a peacekeeping nation right? We don't do American style wars of imperialism - we wage it against REAL terrorists.
And all of this just in time for Don Cherry to come back to the CBC and cheer on the killing! All with a new theme tune. I suspect hockey night in Canada wouldn't pick this song:
Hockey Night in Afghanada by the Consumer Goods (winnipeggers be proud this band is yours!)
http://radio3.cbc.ca/play/band/The-Consumer-Goods/Hockey-Night-in-A...
or in video form:
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I had to post that to my Facebook site. Brilliant song and fantastic video. Of course the CBC wouldn't include it. Spineless sycophants that they've become. Thanks for finding that elmateo.
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elmateo
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The Consumer Goods have been crafting some brilliant songs. From their first album there is a song called Ghost of a Suicide Bomber that, bravely, presents a (one-way) conversation between the activist and the suicide bomber. And he has a song dedicated to Sam Katz for you peggers  . |
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sparqui
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I'll have to check them out elmateo.
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That. Was. Awesome!
Thanks for finding it elmateo!
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The Evil Twin
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Number 97:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080907/national/afghan_cda_death
| Quote: | Bomb kills 97th Canadian soldier in Afghanistan as election called in Ottawa
By Tobi Cohen, The Canadian Press
KANDAHAR, Afghanistan - Violence ripped through southern Afghanistan Sunday leaving a Canadian soldier dead in a bomb blast in the countryside shortly before a pair of suicide bombers blew themselves up inside police headquarters in Kandahar city.
Sgt. Scott Shipway became the 97th soldier to die on Canada's mission to Afghanistan when his armoured vehicle struck a roadside bomb in the Panjwaii district around 12:30 p.m.
The separate suicide attack at police headquarters killed at least four Afghan police officers and wounded about 31 people.
It all happened on the day Prime Minister Stephen Harper announced a federal election would be held on Oct. 14 in Canada. |
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The Evil Twin
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http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/12/13/afghanistan-canada.html
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3 Canadian soldiers killed, 1 injured in Afghanistan
Last Updated: Saturday, December 13, 2008 | 5:33 PM ET
CBC News
Three Canadian soldiers were killed and another was injured Saturday when their vehicle was hit by an improvised explosive device in southern Afghanistan, the Canadian military said.
The soldiers were responding to reports people were planting a suspicious object west of Kandahar City, the military said in a statement. The injured soldier was transported to the hospital at Kandahar airfield and is in fair condition.
The soldiers' identities were not released.
Canada has now lost 103 soldiers and one diplomat since it first began the military mission six years ago.
The blast occurred in an area that until this summer was largely free of insurgent activity, the CBC's David Common reported Saturday from Kandahar. |
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The Evil Twin
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| Quote: | Canadian killed in Afghanistan
The Canadian Press
KANDAHAR, Afghanistan – A roadside bomb killed another Canadian soldier and wounded three others Friday during a security patrol in southern Afghanistan.
The commander of coalition forces in Kandahar province, Brig.-Gen. Denis Thompson, said the soldiers' armoured vehicle struck the explosive in Zhari district, 24 kilometres west of Kandahar city.
"The soldiers were conducting security operations in the area when the explosion occurred," Thompson said.
The attack occurred at about 12:45 p.m. local time.
The three injured soldiers were taken by helicopter to the hospital at Kandahar Airfield. The military says they are all in good condition.
The soldier's next of kin have been notified but his name has not yet been released at the request of the family.
This latest death brings to 104 the number of Canadian soldiers killed in the Afghan mission since 2002. One diplomat and two aid workers have also been killed. |
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/558429
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The Evil Twin
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| Quote: | Two Canadian soldiers killed in Afghanistan
Updated Sun. Dec. 28 2008 1:53 AM ET
CTV.ca News Staff
Two Canadian soldiers have died in Afghanistan after a bomb exploded west of Kandahar city. An Afghan policeman and interpreter were also killed in the blast.
The soldiers had been conducting security operations in the volatile Panjwaii district, where Canadian troops have repeatedly fought against Taliban gunmen.
The military has identified the slain soldiers as:
* Warrant Officer Gaeten Joseph Roberge, a member of the Royal 22nd Regiment who was serving with the Irish Regiment of Canada in Sudbury, Ont. He was serving in Afghanistan to help train the country's national police force.
* Sgt. Greg John Kruse from the 24 Field Squadron, 2 Combat Engineer Regiment based in Petawawa, Ont. He was serving as a member of 3rd Battalion of the Royal Canadian Regiment battle group.
"There are no words to properly express our sorrow at this moment," Brig.-Gen. Denis Thompson, the head of Canadian and NATO forces in Kandahar, said in a statement. "Every one of our soldiers is very dear to us. They are our friends and our brothers." |
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20081228/afghan...
Really strange and bloody winter. Historically rebels fighting in Afghanistan - whether against the National Government or foreign occupiers like the British Empire or the USSR - advanced in summer and withdrew in winter. This has been the case up to now from 2001 - 2007 with relatively quiet winters. Indeed, the last two winters were so quiet that some idiots on rightwing blogs and media were claiming "we" were winning and that "the terrists" were "losing". Wonder what the PMO/MSM spin will be now? 
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TS.
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| Quote: | A Canadian soldier was killed by a roadside bomb in the northern part of Afghanistan's Kandahar province early Wednesday, say military officials.
The soldier was killed when an improvised explosive devise detonated near the armoured vehicle he was travelling in. Three other soldiers were injured in the incident in the Shah Wali Kowt district, about 35 kilometres north of Kandahar City.
The soldier has been identified as Trooper Brian Richard Good of the Royal Canadian Dragoons stationed at Canadian Forces Base Petawawa in eastern Ontario. |
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The soldier has been identified as Trooper Brian Richard Good of the Royal Canadian Dragoons stationed at Canadian Forces Base Petawawa in eastern Ontario. |
The only Good soldier... |
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Hephaestion
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Actually, Brian Good is the brother of my friend, Dave, the geologist out at the silver mine in Sandon. I'm going to pick up a sympathy card for Dave while I'm in town this afternoon.
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| Hephaestion wrote: | | Actually, Brian Good is the brother of my friend, Dave, the geologist out at the silver mine in Sandon. I'm going to pick up a sympathy card for Dave while I'm in town this afternoon. |
You're a compassionate fellow, and should be commended for it.
Myself... I feel that by honoring these dead, we honor their task, and play an enabling role towards the death cult of soldiering. |
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I don't think a sympathy card to a broken hearted brother is "honouring" the death cult of soldiering as much as being a kindness to the living.
Whether they're on active duty or home putting sandbags on the banks to keep the Red River from flooding, we have to at some point face the fact we train these guys to be paid assassins. There is no "glory" in war, nor any inherent glory in the military.
That said, the truth is they don't get to choose where they go or who they are told to kill and the real dishonour goes to those safe-at-home armchair generals who form the government which sends people out to kill people and get paid while doing it.
And WE pay for the bullets and bombs. The mafia at least buys it's own weapons. |
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| anne cameron wrote: | | I don't think a sympathy card to a broken hearted brother is "honouring" the death cult of soldiering as much as being a kindness to the living. |
I do agree, although I probably wouldn't participate.
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That said, the truth is they don't get to choose where they go or who they are told to kill and the real dishonour goes to those safe-at-home armchair generals who form the government which sends people out to kill people and get paid while doing it.
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There is so much choice, particularly in Canada. They choose whether or not to join. They can choose the branch they join. They can choose likelihood of deployment based on the branch they join. Reservists can choose whether they make themselves available, or unavailable for deployments.
Soldier's aren't innocent players sent to their death by powerful, uncaring men. They choose the path... and in most cases, they actively support the process. They embrace what they do.
Given so many chances to avoid a murderous path, they deserve little sympathy when it doesn't work out for them.
Their victims aren't given any choice. |
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But aren't our soldiers their victims, and their soldiers our victims? Notwithstanding civilians?
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| Senor Magoo wrote: | | But aren't our soldiers their victims, and their soldiers our victims? Notwithstanding civilians? |
You can't really say "Notwithstanding civilians" when civilian deaths are precisely the crux of the issue. Especially in a situation where on one hand, we tend not to admit that anyone we kill could possibly have been a civilian, but on the other we also don't admit the concept that anyone on the other side is a soldier. |
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| Rufus Polson wrote: | | Senor Magoo wrote: | | But aren't our soldiers their victims, and their soldiers our victims? Notwithstanding civilians? |
You can't really say "Notwithstanding civilians" when civilian deaths are precisely the crux of the issue. Especially in a situation where on one hand, we tend not to admit that anyone we kill could possibly have been a civilian, but on the other we also don't admit the concept that anyone on the other side is a soldier. |
That's an excellent point. In one breath, the United States (and the Harper government) deny that the people captured are soldiers and therefore protected by the Geneva Conventions (never mind that civilians and irregular combatants are protected as well), and in the next deny that anyone we kill could be civilian. It creates a cognitive dissonance which the US only sorted out by inventing the classification of "illegal enemy combatant."
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| One of your cabinet ministers is quoted as turning down the USA's request for more Candian troops in Afghanistan or continuing participation beyond 2011. I saw in on an international list; surely, y'all ought to be seeing it. As some Europeans want out, too, the USAn announced plans for Afghanistan seem destined to morph. |
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Our government only said that to get it off the table during the last election. I fully expect them to renege.
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| What I saw was dated current, IIRC. I will look for it to double-check but I have a full day so it may not be until late today. |
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The Evil Twin
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| Quote: | The Taliban's unorthodox winter campaign of sowing Kandahar province with explosives claimed the life of another Canadian soldier on Saturday when his armoured vehicle struck a roadside bomb in the volatile Zhari district.
Sapper Sean Greenfield was killed at the tail end of an joint operation with American and British troops meant to root out exactly the kind of improvised explosive device, or IED, that took his life.
"The mission in question was meant to go into a zone, the western part of Panjwaii and Zhari districts in order to go after specific Taliban compounds of interest, where we did find. . .bomb-making material and other weapons," said Brig.-Gen. Denis Thompson, the commander of coalition forces in Kandahar province.
The death of Greenfield, 25, brings to 108 the total number of Canadian troops who have died as part of the Afghan mission since it began in 2002. |
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/War_Terror/2009/01/31/8219636-cp.html
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| Quote: | Afghan bomb kills 3 soldiers
OTTAWA — A roadside bomb that killed three Canadian soldiers in a relatively restive district of Kandahar province may be an indication that a fierce spring fighting season in Afghanistan is underway, military and Afghan officials say.
Word of a new Taliban offensive came ahead of a grim report in Ottawa showing that Canada has made modest development progress in the face of a worsening security situation. While the number of Canadian-funded jobs and schools and trained Afghan forces has grown, violence, including roadside bombings, assassinations and intimidation, increased in severity and frequency, undermining the confidence of locals in their safety and futures, the report found.
"The areas that we've pointed to we've seen progress, and we've also seen a rise in insurgency," said International Trade Minister Stockwell Day, chair of a cabinet committee on Afghanistan. "The two can happen at the same time."
It was only a tragic coincidence that the report to Parliament landed on the same day as news that the Canadian deathtoll in Afghanistan had risen to 111. |
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/596270
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| Quote: | | The Taliban's unorthodox winter campaign of sowing Kandahar province with explosives |
Unorthodox.
Huh. Someone should tell these people about this quaint concept they call a "minefield". |
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Canadian soldier killed by roadside bomb
A Canadian soldier has been killed and four injured when a roadside bomb exploded near their armoured vehicle while on patrol northeast of Kandahar city Sunday.
08/03/2009 5:12:57 PM
Trooper Marc Diab from The Royal Canadian Dragoons, based at CFB Petawawa, was killed by a roadside bomb on March 8, 2009. He was serving as a member of the 3rd Battalion, The Royal Canadian Regiment Battle Group.
The injured soldiers were evacuated by helicopter to a medical facility at the Kandahar airfield and are all in stable condition, the military says. They will be moved shortly to a U.S. military hospital in Germany.
The incident occurred in the Shah Wali Kot district, a mountainous region known as a Taliban transit point, at about 1:15 p.m. Kandahar time.
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Diab is the 112th Canadian soldier killed in Afghanistan. A Canadian diplomat and two Canadian aid workers have also been killed over the course of the insurgency. |
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Blasts kill four soldiers in Afghanistan
Eight others wounded in two separate blasts during massive operation
GLORIA GALLOWAY
From Saturday's Globe and Mail
March 20, 2009 at 9:05 PM EDT
KANDAHAR, AFGHANISTAN — What was billed as the largest operation by Canada's military since the Korean War went exceptionally well for the first three days.
Canadian troops, joined by Afghans and American soldiers under Canadian command, tramped through Taliban territory disrupting insurgent supply lines and confiscating the ingredients for improvised bombs.
The aim, as one Canadian commander put it, was to “create as much chaos” as possible for anti-government forces in advance of what is expected to be a particularly deadly fighting season.
But Friday, as the four-day mission known as Operation Jaley was winding down and the exhausted troops were returning to the sanctuary of a Canadian base, the Taliban struck back twice with deadly effect.
Clockwise from top left: Corporal Tyler Crooks, Trooper Jack Bouthillier, Master Corporal Scott Francis Vernelli and Trooper Corey Joseph Hayes were killed in two separate explosions near Kandahar on Friday.
Two separate explosions in different districts north and west of Kandahar City claimed the lives of four Canadian soldiers and wounded eight others. The deaths and injuries marked one of the most devastating single-day losses for the Canadian forces since they took over the NATO mission in this province three years ago. |
Now that Harpoon has admitted that the Taliban can't be militarily defeated - something various analysts including European NATO commanders have been saying for years - one wonders why more Canadians aren't pissed off. These soldiers are dying for nothing.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090320.wkandah...
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He should get on that diplomatic solution he says is needed. You know, the one that earned Layton the name of Taliban Jack? You know, the one he mentioned while in the US?
Harper has made a mockery of our Parliament. He is very unCanadian. |
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Non-USAn and non-UKan media publishes a 5-part feature.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,614555,00.html#ref...
AFGHANISTAN ON THE BRINK
The West Stares into the Abyss
By Ullrich Fichtner in Wardak province, Afghanistan; 03/20/2009
| Quote: | Afghanistan is on the brink of chaos: That is the stark message from local leaders, the US military and development workers in the troubled country. The elected government, they warn, can no longer compete with the Taliban.
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From bshmr's Spiegel Online link:
| Quote: | Instead of progress, NATO is constantly forced to report setbacks, even in areas that seemed to have been turned around after the Taliban regime was toppled in the fall of 2001. Violence against women remains a plague in Afghan society. The newspapers are full of gruesome but true stories of men allowing their wives to starve to death, children forced into marriage, and crude knife-and-scissor abortions performed on girls impregnated by rapists.
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But in the eighth year of the Afghanistan mission, at the beginning of an Afghan election year that could spell the end of President Hamid Karzai's government this summer, there are still many difficult questions to be asked: What exactly are the 60,000 international troops stationed there fighting for, if Afghanistan, despite their presence, actually dropped by 59 positions on Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index, to 176th out of 180 countries, in only three years? How is it possible that Afghanistan's opium production did not shrink during the years that NATO has been present in the country, but in fact grew larger, so that 92 percent of worldwide opium production today comes from Afghanistan? |
Great job, Stevie you assclown. Stay the course. Support the troops! Don't let the "cowards" tell you to "cut and run". 
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| The Evil Twin wrote: | | These soldiers are dying for nothing. |
I don't really get the objection to soldiers dying. To my mind, it is a good thing, ending their ability to kill, while bringing us one step closer to the end of squandering our national wealth on this doomed foreign adventure. |
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It's not a good thing because no one should be dying for this bogus war.
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That's FUXNews's asinine show "Red-Eye" which used to feature Canada's demented RAchel Marsden.
The neat thing about that nauseating display is that this was FUXNeews and those shit-heads are the exact same type of people who cheer on FUXNews here in Canada.
These self-obsessed, factually-challenged imbeciles are the soulmates of Canada's rightwing.
See how Stephen Harper's strutting on the world stage is really viewed?
P.S. I wonder how many of those dipshits have actually served in the US military that they're hoot-hooting so proudly for?
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Ooog.
Even aside from the offensiveness, and the utter ignorance, and the gargantuan smugness--this is what that breed of American thinks is *funny*?
I'm not even complaining about the mindset that thinks coarse aggressiveness and insult are funny. But man, they're so bad at it! God these people are lame. In school, I've been tormented by failing third grade class bullies with more wit than that. A comparison which is far from accidental . . . |
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The Evil Twin
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I'm not even complaining about the mindset that thinks coarse aggressiveness and insult are funny. But man, they're so bad at it! God these people are lame. In school, I've been tormented by failing third grade class bullies with more wit than that. A comparison which is far from accidental . . . |
Agreed. I don't mind humour which pokes fun at Canada (or any other country) but this was totally lame, not funny, not factual and borderline sexist and homophobic (c'mon making fun of a guy named "Leslie", laughing about soldiers getting manicures...what are they, 12?). As for the mounties being a bunch of harmless horse riding wimps in red serge, I'm sure the families of Robert Dzienkanski (sp?) and countless dead Natives would disagree.
| Quote: | | The neat thing about that nauseating display is that this was FUXNeews and those shit-heads are the exact same type of people who cheer on FUXNews here in Canada. |
I was thinking the same thing, the "support the troops" crowd should definitely watch that. They might learn something about how much they and the CF are "appreciated" by their friends in the US right.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:06 am Post subject: |
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Or the otherside of the irony - that these people think its better to have a police force that needs guns, bullet-proof vests, and armoured cars than red-suits riding around on horses just for tourists (if only, we would be so lucky!)?
I just have to ask, Al Jazeera is more 'dangerous' than this crap? This is why we can get FoxNews on satellite but not Al Jazeera? We wouldn't want to hear some honest journalism, but disgusting slander is perfectly fine! |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:44 am Post subject: |
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For the record, "Red Eye," "The Half-hour News Hour" and "An American Carol" are what happens when right-wingers attempt humour.
And when Bill O'Reilly wants to say that "the Left" is full of hate, he's reduced to listing "Daily Kos" as evidence, whereas "Free Republic" and "Little Green Footballs" doesn't even register.
Michael Moore is supposedly the Left's Ann Coulter.
I'm starting to sense a pattern here. The right-wing is composed of talentless, hate-filled shitheads.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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The right-wing nutbars must be confused as hell about this. It might force them to think for a change.  On the one hand, they said something bad our soldiers (whom they superficially support btw), but on the other hand, this came from Pravda Fox Truth Corporation in the US, the land of all that is good and holy. But, they said something bad about our troops, but it came from Fox News....
This must be very stressful for them. What to say and think when the crackpots you listen to disagree? Maybe blame Jack Layton, Gilles Duceppe? |
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The Evil Twin
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| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:59 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | On the one hand, they said something bad our soldiers (whom they superficially support btw), but on the other hand, this came from Pravda Fox Truth Corporation in the US, the land of all that is good and holy. But, they said something bad about our troops, but it came from Fox News.... |
Not just the troops but *gulp* our police too! These are are the only two government employees (Armed Forces and Police) that the wing-nuts claim to support. They also poked fun at our fighting prowess and soldiers' manhood. More than a few heads must be exploding..."does not compute....does not compute....does not compute......does not compuuuuuuuuuuu *CRASH*
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| Quote: | | Rick Mercer to Fox: Bullying is not satire |
Rick Mercer is an embarrassment. His fawning over anyone in uniform is uncomfortably creepy.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:29 am Post subject: |
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| Jingles wrote: | | Quote: | | Rick Mercer to Fox: Bullying is not satire |
Rick Mercer is an embarrassment. His fawning over anyone in uniform is uncomfortably creepy. |
Ah, I see your point. It must be satire then. |
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| Quote: | Defence Minister Peter MacKay wasn't laughing.
He requested an apology Monday just before leaving for Canadian Forces Base Trenton, Ont., where he attended a homecoming ceremony with the families of the latest soldiers killed.
MacKay said later that he was satisfied with the apology.
Canadian soldiers have been fighting in Afghanistan for eight years and have spent the last four in the country's most violent region. Canada has lost 116 soldiers in Afghanistan, the highest casualty rate among allied countries fighting there.
Earlier Monday, a spokesman stressed that the Canadian government specifically wanted an apology from the panellists who made the wisecracks - and not just from the Fox network at large.
"These are despicable, hurtful and ignorant comments," said Dan Dugas, a spokesman for MacKay.
"I think that so-called comedian should stare in the camera at his first opportunity and apologize to all of the families of people he's hurt with these despicable comments.
"And he's got to say, 'I was misinformed. I was ignorant of the truth and the contribution of the Canadian Forces to the war on terror, and I want to take it back. I know as a comedian that I can fail sometimes; I failed miserably at this so-called comedy.'
"And his panellists should say the same." |
Is this the first ever example of someone saying something despicable, hurtful and ignorant about the Canadian military? If not, how does some American nobody from Fox News rate a government response?
If I say something similar, will Pete send out some officials to demand an apology? |
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I wasn't so incensed by the insult to the troops as I was disgusted at the miserable results of Canada's efforts to suck-up to the USA in this rotten adventure.
And I'm similarly disgusted with the Canadian right-wingers who demand our complete subservience to "the mission" or else we hate their precious troops, but when FUXNews insults them we're all supposed to learn how to take a joke.
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Absolutely beautiful. This is another significant erosion in public support for this terrible war - I wonder, if looking back, this will be seen as a turning point.
It was a surprise to find out how much this mission as compromised our own military - Not that I really care one way or the other. |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:56 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | I wasn't so incensed by the insult to the troops as I was disgusted at the miserable results of Canada's efforts to suck-up to the USA in this rotten adventure.
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Wasn't the comedian basically just saying, disapprovingly, what Canadian nationalists say about Canada approvingly, ie. we're less warlike than the Americans?
I wonder how Canadians would have reacted if someone on FOX News said "God, those Canucks have one helluva kickass war machine on their hands!" After all, that would be a compliment, which is apparently what a significant section of Canadian public opinion wants to hear from the USA. |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Well, this is a change. The godfather of the latest soldier killed in Afghanistan is saying that Canada should pull out immediately and return to taking a solely peacekeeping role.
| Quote: | Ottawa should pull its troops out of Afghanistan immediately and return the military to its peacekeeping roots, the godfather of the latest Canadian soldier to die in the wartorn country said today.
Just two weeks into her first tour of duty, 21-year-old Karine Blais was killed late yesterday by a roadside bomb north of Kandahar City.
... [Mario] Blais had a simple message for Prime Minister Stephen Harper: ``Get the troops out of there as fast as possible.
"I'm worried for all those who are there," he added, echoing the view of many Quebecers who've been among the most vocal opponents of Canada's participation in the Afghan mission.
"I don't think it's our place at all, at all, at all. We should be leading peacekeeping missions, not combat missions like we're doing." |
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