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Hephaestion Deeply Shallow

Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 24243 Location: Where the Wild Things Are...
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject: REAL Women hate human rights museum |
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And "Crazy Aunt Gwen" Landolt* wants YOU to raise a stink about it
| Quote: | Gwen Landolt of REAL Women of Canada, an anti-gay lobby group, has sent out an action alert about a proposed Human Rights Museum in Winnipeg, Manitoba.
The Human Rights Museum, which is still in its planning stages, has been somewhat of a sore spot for many social conservatives who oppose the inclusion of gay and women's rights among the exhibits. When the museum was proposed, LifeSite called it a "Temple of Propaganda", saying that its supporters have "made a monster of the word tolerance, [have] raped the word gay, and [have] beheaded the term human rights". Extreme social conservatives have been quietly steaming ever since.
An interesting thing happened last week, though. The Conservative government tabled a bill that would make the Human Rights Museum a Crown corporation. While the government had already invested one hundred million dollars in the project, this bill will put the museum alongside such institutes as the National Gallery of Canada and the Canadian Museum of Civilization.
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With the museum's transition to a Crown corporation, and with the Conservative government's continued support of the project, Gwen demands that as many people as possible "with a conservative perspective" use the government's public consultation form to oppose gay rights exhibits, and instead promote exhibits that showcase the "selfless dedication of those defending the family and traditional marriage".
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Gwen's crankiness aside, she has actually highlighted a unique opportunity to give some input into our Human Rights Museum. Why not take this opportunity and let the museum planners know what's important to you when it comes to human rights? |
* "Crazy Aunt Gwen" is what her nephew -- who works for Egale -- calls her, apparently. _________________ "The dignity of an animal is measured by his capacity to revolt in the face of oppression." -- Mikhail Bakunin |
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Tehanu More or less, more or less

Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 17673 Location: Seceded from the Ford Nation
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:40 am Post subject: |
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Worth doing that online consultation mentioned in the article (although it's a bit lengthy) ... go nuts folks! I love the idea of a human rights museum, although museum does imply past tense. They do ask if the focus should be more historical or current, and also the relative importance of an action-oriented approach versus others.
Really. Go do the consultation! |
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elmateo sleepy.
Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 4978 Location: socialist corner, ottawa
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:20 am Post subject: |
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Way better than the budget consultation!
Hopefully they listen to only my suggestions . |
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Tehanu More or less, more or less

Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 17673 Location: Seceded from the Ford Nation
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:52 am Post subject: |
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*bump*
Do consider doing the online feedback for this. It doesn't take long (unless you write a longish screed about Canada's record pro/con on human rights )
I'd hate to see REAL Women defining what "human rights" mean in the context of the museum. |
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sparqui Dog tired

Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Posts: 5166 Location: Winnipeg
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:01 am Post subject: |
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I did the feedback thing when it was first flagged. Do we know anything about the results. Do they do any stats or reporting? _________________ “If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a tractor.”
-- Gilles Duceppe |
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Wee Mousie thereby hangs a tail

Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 2295 Location: 'twixt cinder block and drywall.
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | LifeSite called it a “Temple of Propaganda,”
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An intangible temple, so far.
| Quote: | . . . its supporters have made a monster of the word tolerance . . .
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Only to monsters of intolerance.
| Quote: | . . . raped the word gay . . .
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Said by ones who buggered the word Christian?
| Quote: | . . . beheaded the term human rights. . .
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Or, at least, the twisted and tortured concept of human rights that languished inside their heads.
I agree, we should make certain that these aren't the only voices defining what we celebrate as Human Rights in Canada. _________________ Relieve The Troops — Bring Them Home Now! |
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Hephaestion Deeply Shallow

Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 24243 Location: Where the Wild Things Are...
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Human rights museum receives royal assent; rightwing group urges members to flood public consultation with 'conservative' input
| Quote: | The Canadian Museum for Human Rights was brought one step closer to reality yesterday, but a rightwing group is up in arms to stop the museum from "championing" homosexuality.
Bill C-42, an act to amend the Museum Act, received royal assent Mar 13. It creates the proposed human rights museum in downtown Winnipeg as a Crown corporation and sets out its powers and purpose.
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The online consultation process is still open, but only until Mar 15. It is being used by the museum to "assist its decision-making on the content and programming of the museum," says the Ministry of Canadian Heritage's website.
HAVE YOUR SAY! Fill out the online public consultation form. It takes only a few minutes, and you will not be asked for your name or contact information. |
_________________ "The dignity of an animal is measured by his capacity to revolt in the face of oppression." -- Mikhail Bakunin |
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Hephaestion Deeply Shallow

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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:33 am Post subject: |
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Last day... "The online consultation process is still open, but only until Mar 15"
[How's that for a cleverly-disguised *bump*?] _________________ "The dignity of an animal is measured by his capacity to revolt in the face of oppression." -- Mikhail Bakunin |
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gunnar gunnarson Fulltime enMasse Member

Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 549 Location: The Arena of the Unwell
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Got in an anti-NAFTA shot while I was at it. For indicia of success, I suggested that if we never have to hear from people like Gwen Landolt or Charles McVety again ...  |
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TS. Delicious schadenfreude

Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 14585 Location: Toronto, ON
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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That was a surprisingly in-depth consultation tool. _________________ "Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear." - Thomas Jefferson |
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Tehanu More or less, more or less

Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 17673 Location: Seceded from the Ford Nation
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:44 am Post subject: |
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| gunnar gunnarson wrote: | For indicia of success, I suggested that if we never have to hear from people like Gwen Landolt or Charles McVety again ...  |
Excellent! Unless of course they happened to run afoul of a taxidermist and were enshrined in the Museum's "Hall of Shame."  |
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Hephaestion Deeply Shallow

Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 24243 Location: Where the Wild Things Are...
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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Groups vie for influence on Human Rights Museum: Canadian Heritage to choose board of trustees that will oversee museum's content
| Quote: | This past February, Canadian Heritage -- which is now overseeing the direction of the Museum -- commissioned an online survey and public forum to gauge what the scope and focus of the Museum should be. More than 2,500 people across Canada responded to this survey, which consisted of eleven multiple choice and open-ended questions.
This had some lobby groups, such as REAL Women of Canada, encouraging their membership to use the online survey as a way of preventing certain human rights issues from ending up on the table. In a Feb 18 alert to its membership, REAL Women warned that the museum's "left-wing" advisory committee consisted of "feminists, homosexuals and regular Liberal stand-bys" who want to use the museum "as a powerful tool to champion the Liberal government's interpretation of human rights."
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Landolt does not know how many of her supporters were counted among the 2,500 respondents who filled out the survey between Feb 5 and Mar 15.
Results from the public consultation released on Mar 31 suggest that 4.9 percent of respondents believe sexual orientation is a topic that should be included in the CMHR's programming.
In comparison, 16.1 percent of respondents believe the treatment of Aboriginal peoples in Canada should be included in the Museum -- an issue which topped the list of suggested human rights issues. Second and third were the topics of genocide and women's rights, weighing in at 14.8 percent and 14.7 percent respectively.
"The online consultation was not scientific; rather it was a useful tool to help gauge passion and interest of Canadians in the Museum," says Gail Asper, who was a lead member of the advisory committee that oversaw the consultation. Asper is the daughter of late media-mogul, Izzy Asper, whose life-long dream was to see the realization of a Human Rights Museum in Winnipeg.
Asper iterated that "at no time did the committee consider that the space allocation in the museum might be a function of the number of emails received on a particular topic or issue." In fact she says, "it underscores the need and importance of an impartial process to gather information."
But media spokesperson for the Canadian Heritage, Charles Drouin had a different take on the report saying that the public consultation "will [act as] a very good guide to the direction of the Museum." Drouin could not comment on any other details about what is to be included in the CMHR because that decision, he says, "will be made by the Board of Trustees which is to be selected by Canadian Heritage in the near future."
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In the meantime, the fate of the Museum will be left in the hands of the federal Conservative government, which recently committed $249 million in federal funding to the Museum and an additional $22 million per year in operational funding. |
_________________ "The dignity of an animal is measured by his capacity to revolt in the face of oppression." -- Mikhail Bakunin |
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sparqui Dog tired

Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Posts: 5166 Location: Winnipeg
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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I have a bad feeling about this.
I did the survey, and I think on one open ended question stated that the museum should highlight the history of how Canada made great strides in human rights with SSM and reproductive choice.
The way the survey was designed, I don't see how they could measure responses with any reliability, especially with the open-ended questions.
Still, with the Harpercons in power, I have little faith in who they appoint to that board. _________________ “If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a tractor.”
-- Gilles Duceppe |
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Hephaestion Deeply Shallow

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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| sparqui wrote: | | Still, with the Harpercons in power, I have little faith in who they appoint to that board. |
No. Shit.
Anti-gay Manitoba Conservative leader appointed new head of Canadian Human Rights Museum:
| Quote: | Can I get a “whaaaa?!”
Stu Murray, the former leader of Manitoba’s Conservative Party, has been appointed as CEO of the upcoming Canadian Human Rights Museum.
Murray, incidentally, voted against the provincial Charter Compliance Act in 2002, which amended 55 acts to give gay common-law spouses equal rights to their straight counterparts in full compliance with Canada’s Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
Hmm… I kind of figured that would put him in the museum, just not really in this way.
The Human Rights Museum is a popular target for anti-gay groups, who launch organized lobby efforts to control its direction and content in order to exclude GLBT exhibits. |
Typical. Filthy scumbags. _________________ "The dignity of an animal is measured by his capacity to revolt in the face of oppression." -- Mikhail Bakunin |
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Hephaestion Deeply Shallow

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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:16 am Post subject: |
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New head of human rights museum sparks controversy
| Quote: | This week's announcement that Stuart Murray, former leader of Manitoba's Progressive Conservative Party, will head up Canada's newest national museum has sparked cries of protest across the country.
"I'm outraged," says Daniel Voth, a political science student at the University of British Columbia. Voth sent an email to academics, politicians and friends urging them to take action against Murray's appointment. "I hope people make a stink."
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Murray answered questions about his political record during an interview with a CBC Radio show in Winnipeg. When asked about his party's stand against same-sex adoption, he said, "That was a caucus decision that we made. I don't have an issue with that personally." But he refused to say whether, if given a second chance, he would vote the same way.
Asked whether he agrees that same-sex couples should be entitled to equal pension rights, he answered, "As a private citizen, I do."
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The $265-million Canadian Museum for Human Rights is being built in Winnipeg, where it is slated to open in 2012. Following the outburst over Murray's appointment, the museum issued a statement declaring that he would "welcome the opportunity to meet with representatives from the LGBT community to a meeting at their earliest convenience."
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Lorri Millan, one of the lesbian mothers who fought for same-sex adoption rights in Manitoba, says she's "baffled" by Murray's appointment.
"There's no merit," she says. "He was a marginal leader during his time and he doesn't reflect any diversity. He's not a curator and he's not a director. I can't see it as anything other than a cushy appointment for a long-time Tory."
Millan points out that Manitoba's NDP government doesn't deserve much praise for its role in the same-sex adoption debate, either. She and several other couples had to sue the government before it introduced a bill in the Legislature.
"No one came out smelling rosy in that situation," she says. "Everyone played hot potato with the issue."
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The Canadian Museum for Human Rights is holding a series of public consultations across Canada. For a schedule, visit humanrightsmuseum.ca.
At a press conference announcing Stuart Murray's appointment, the Winnipeg Free Press asked the former PC leader about his gay rights record. Watch the video below: |
A reader comments:
| Quote: | | As a gay male of 61 I am surprised that a museum that declares itself tobe one on the struggle of human rights would have as its head Stuart Murray. Would any survivor of the Nazi concentration camp Jew or Gay accept Murray's explanation for his behaviour. "He said Friday —that at the time, he was following the wishes of his caucus and his constituents." I thought that the Nuremberg Trials disallowed "I was only following orders." defence. The appointment of Stuart Murray should be the concern of any supporter of the Human Rights struggle. Lets hope saner rational minds we appoint a truly valued individual who has a history of supporting human rights. Will the Canadian Museum of Human Rights with the appointment of Murray turn the museum into an mockery. |
_________________ "The dignity of an animal is measured by his capacity to revolt in the face of oppression." -- Mikhail Bakunin |
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sparqui Dog tired

Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Posts: 5166 Location: Winnipeg
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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There has always seemed to be a hierarchy of human rights at play with this proposed museum. If they really cared, they would have appointed women's, LBGT and Aboriginal rights activists to the Board. Instead it's a bunch of business cronies:
| Quote: | ...Hughes is chief financial officer of Wave Energy, an oil and gas exploration company. He was also chief financial officer for both Neteller PCL and Burnco Rock Products. Hughes has a bachelor of commerce from the University of Calgary and is a chartered accountant.
Pankratz is the president and chief compliance officer of Mackenzie Cundill Investment Management. She is also director of CanWest Global Communications Corp., and an adviser for the Ben Graham Centre for Value Investing. She is also a chartered accountant, a chartered financial analyst, and holds a bachelor of arts in business administration from the Richard Ivey School of Business. |
http://www.canada.com/Appointments+made+Canadian+Museum+Human+Right...
A former Chief Justice who happens to be a woman, a few academics (a naturalist and a media/film specialist) and one actual Human Rights specialist, DR. WILTON LITTLECHILD:
http://www.pch.gc.ca/pc-ch/infoCntr/cdm-mc/index-eng.cfm?action=doc... _________________ “If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a tractor.”
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DSquared aka Aristotleded24
Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 5570 Location: Winnipeg
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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| sparqui wrote: | | There has always seemed to be a hierarchy of human rights at play with this proposed museum. If they really cared, they would have appointed women's, LBGT and Aboriginal rights activists to the Board. Instead it's a bunch of business cronies |
And I'm sure you've heard about the concerns that the process is proceeding too quickly to properly assess the area for any archaeological artifacts. _________________ This is pre-eminently the time, to speak the truth, the whole truth, frankly and boldly. Let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself-Franklin Delano Roosevelt |
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Hephaestion Deeply Shallow

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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Rights museum head on the hot seat; Stuart Murray sits down with Xtra.ca
| Quote: | ... "I'm reluctant to keep driving back to the past," said Stuart Murray, from the museum's temporary office space in downtown Winnipeg.
But Murray's past is exactly what gay and lesbian critics want him to discuss. Before Stephen Harper put him in charge of Canada's federally-funded human rights museum, set to open in 2012, Murray was leader of Manitoba's Progressive Conservative Party.
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Finally, when the NDP's legislation came to a vote, Murray and the rest of his caucus stood against it. That day, he said, "Although I said as an individual I support same-sex adoption, there are a number of Manitobans who have a different opinion. The majority of people who I spoke to were not in favour of this and I felt we needed to stand up for them."
This week, Murray told Xtra.ca that his personal view on adoption rights hasn't changed. "I don't think that heterosexual people have a monopoly on love for children," he said. "It is the inherent right of the child to be loved, and if they're loved by two men, two women, a man and a woman, a single man, or a single woman, the issue should be love for the child."
But he's reluctant to talk about his party's vote on the issue, except to say this: "As we were getting ready for that vote, I became very aware that there were going to be serious issues if I took the stand I believed in." |
_________________ "The dignity of an animal is measured by his capacity to revolt in the face of oppression." -- Mikhail Bakunin |
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sparqui Dog tired

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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Three of the four letters to the editor (Wpg Free Press) expressed disgust in Harper's choice to appoint Murray.  _________________ “If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a tractor.”
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